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last week NASA held its first public

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meeting on UFOs which by the way are now

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called officially unidentified aerial

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phenomena this is a year after launching

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a study into unexplained sightings and

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now tonight a worldwide TV exclusive you

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will only see right here on news Nation

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bombshell claims from a military

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whistleblower published just this

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morning alleging a secret UFO retrieval

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program within the U.S government David

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Crush an Air Force veteran former member

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of that task force and Veteran of the

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National geospatial Intelligence Agency

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now formally blowing the whistle on

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Secrets he says no one has ever shared

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publicly before he is speaking

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one-on-one with investigative reporter

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Ross coldheart reporting for news Nation

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when you say crash retrieval what do you

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mean these are retrieving non-human

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origin technical Vehicles you know call

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it spacecraft if you will it's probably

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not the right parlance but uh no kidding

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non-human exotic origin vehicles that

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have either landed or crashed we have

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spacecraft from another species we do

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yeah

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how many

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quite a number

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all right tune in to Vargas tonight at 6

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PM Eastern a worldwide TV exclusive you

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well there you have it uh that's the

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latest bus that's been going around the

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internet and I thought it's very

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relevant for you to uh it's very

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relevant for me to show this to you

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um anyway I think it's a lot better than

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the BS that we're showing

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um from NASA last week and um I think we

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just need more of these kind of reports

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basically to just get all the hidden and

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secret stuff out from the dark and into

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the public eye just for any if not for

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if not for advancement Humanity just so

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that everyone else gets to know what's

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out there after all they paid for it

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with their taxpayers or tax dollars so a

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little bit more about that here in a bit

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but first welcome to your fohab live

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stream uh today is open line so I hope

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to talk to you about this news today or

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any other Supernatural subjects you

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might have to share with me that is done

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over telegram you can install that on

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your phone or the computer and there's a

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UFO Hub channel that it basically has a

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live voice chat going on right now you

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can join that group and when the time

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comes for me to do open lines you can

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simply request to

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um to talk to me and I'll add you to the

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queue so anyway I hope you take

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advantage of that just to at least share

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your thoughts on whatever it is that's

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on your mind regarding the subject so

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um let's uh dive a little bit more into

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basically what has been happening so

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what from my understanding and from what

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I was able to gather there's this

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article that basically was written by

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Leslie Keane and Ralph Blumenthal June

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5th and they're actually New York Times

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reporters but for some reason New York

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Times was dragging a feed on on this and

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but from what I was able to gather it

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was going to be published way later down

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the line and I think it's because in

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correlation with the news Nation report

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coming up this Sunday which is the

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actual interview that hasn't published

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yet I think they wanted to basically

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drop this article on this and so

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I was trying to gather exactly

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uh in comparison to all the other

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whistleblowers all you know over the

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years that have come out that have come

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forward and told what they know why is

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this one different uh for everyone else

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to picks it up and I think it just comes

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down to the credentials and not

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necessarily that anyone else that has

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over the past 80 years come out to

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report on this or be The Whistleblower

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it's just it's something I guess has to

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do with more and more information coming

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now something changing obviously more

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and more truth coming out and

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um at the right time at the basically

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the perfect moment for this to just come

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out and have the right person

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whether or not he will be discredited

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about this I don't know the Pentagon has

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also come out to officially deny this

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but we'll see if they change change a

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story because if I'm not mistaken and I

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could be forgive me I don't have this

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little detail when the report about the

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Pentagon project that they were secretly

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investigating UFOs initially came out

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so um anyways this person specifically

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there's a picture

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of him and that's David Charles grush

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I'm sorry if I'm mispronouncing your

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name and he saved Former Intelligence

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official turned whistleblower has given

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Congress and the intelligence Community

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Inspector General extensive classified

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information about deep deeply covered

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programs then he's that he says possess

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retrieved intact and partially intact

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craft of non-human origin so I guess

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just the the level and caliber of this

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person to whom he's already

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talked to and who relies on his

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information for him to come out outside

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of these channels I guess that's why the

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big fuss but anyway

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um I hope I still have it highlighted I

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hope I didn't click away this one out of

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everything and of course in the

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description below you can read this

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article I have the link for it

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um also the the report on news Nation

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it's about minute and a half long it's

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also in the description and when it's

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supposed to air this Sunday but um

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of that I just want to read this

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craft recovery operations are ongoing at

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various levels of activity and that he

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knows the specific individuals current

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and former who are involved quote

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individuals on the UAP programs

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multitude of wrongdoings such as illegal

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acquisition regulations and other and

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other criminality and the suppression of

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information across a qualified

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industrial-based and Academia end quote

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that you know we've already known that

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um in the UFO Community but for a

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decorated veteran of Afghanistan and

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nothing Burger but I'm hoping that more

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of this just basically more

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whistleblowers come out if that's what

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it takes to just shine a bigger light on

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bombshell claims from a military

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government program for decades tonight a

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world television exclusive you will only

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see on news Nation welcome to Elizabeth

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Vargas reports earning your trust every

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okay so anyway the link for that is also

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that so if it gets in her feed that

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usually means it's a lot bigger bigger

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deal than than what it usually is and um

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what I wanted to you know what I wanted

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to add about this and I don't know some

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my life all the things that were going

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powerful and useful resource but

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would be interacting with a version of

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understood from that because he goes on

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to explain more and more but I'm trying

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to break this down to where it makes

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us as children but it's kind of like

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having a child that basically if you

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impose your will on them to let's say

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job or or basically you you tell them

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what they should do in this specific

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um then you're interacting with and

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basically watching a child grow up that

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doctor whatever that is you know instead

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um allowing basically for the child to

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whenever they're ready to come out and

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say okay I would like to do this you

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know and they come to you on their own

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terms and that's what kind of Bashar is

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talking about that we have to kind of

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clean house and do all these all these

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things that's have that have been

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um more and more is going to come out

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given but now it doesn't seem so out of

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he said from 2025 to 2030 or 2035 would

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be kind of like the highest window of

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probability uh for official contact you

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know because enough energy has changed

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planet-wise to where that that makes it

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more feasible impossible and at the time

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you know it was like 2015 I'm like how

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and where it it's taken a long time you

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know just to get to that point how is

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this going to work but there's so much

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ramped up there's so much that we've

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gone through that basically

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um I I see that in a way happening if

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this keeps going and more whistleblowers

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come out and more Congressional reports

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and basically to where your you know

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local whatever uh cook in the restaurant

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or the waitress or garbage man your

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neighbor talks about this that's when

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you know we're finally getting somewhere

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so

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subject again in the uh or the news in

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the description below you'll find the

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links to everything and so this uh

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interview with uh Rush is happening uh

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this Sunday on news Nation uh I believe

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it said nine Eastern 8 Central and um

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uh it's so I hope you catch it and if

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you don't have news Nation I don't I

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don't have it either uh just wait a

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little bit I'm sure it'll appear online

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uh maybe a few hours later the next day

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uh quite possibly on there on their news

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Nation Nation channel uh on YouTube

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so

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um

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yeah so let's open up now the platform

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just for if any questions or people that

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want to speak to me the join telegram uh

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if you are just in the chat rooms on

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Facebook twitch

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um YouTube and um

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what else do I have I forgot the fourth

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one Twitter uh you simply uh put three

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asterix's before your question that way

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I know it's meant for me and so if you

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have any remarks any questions and don't

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want to verbally speak to me just put

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that down otherwise join Telegram and

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share your story or share share your

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thoughts if uh there's not that much

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going on today I'll I guess I'll finish

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up early but at least you got the news

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for today

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all right over do we have here

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Pascal is in the chat welcome Kurt

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uh labels always happy to see you red

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uh Bradley welcome Bradley good to see

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you as well

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um Roy silky

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and who else we have Verona so yeah

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welcome all of you

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um

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you know it's uh

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I'm it's really it's a little bit

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surreal especially since for over 20

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years when you're constantly just trying

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to figure out what's going on not that

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many people believing in this stuff and

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it's always just something that you have

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to do on your own not necessarily just

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for ridicule but just for the lack of

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information that was available I always

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had to get it from others through books

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if you have not had your own experiences

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you know or articles or things like that

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if you're just nuts and bolts

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researchers so it's it's really surreal

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for me just to start seeing that

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um you know I don't know I hope it's not

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just a one one-time thing to where that

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was it then it'll be a few more years

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till maybe something else you know comes

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around and dies down again but but we'll

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see if this is the period for for truth

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and everything that was once in the dark

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coming out then I don't I don't see that

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happening again

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now let's see here

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all of you are very quiet today

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uh silky is asking have you ever been

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regressed by Dolores I've met Dolores

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but I have not

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um I have not gone through

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um her with the regression with her now

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what I did is I did a session with

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Suzanne Spooner she was originally

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trained by Dolores and I really highly

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recommend for those of you that want to

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go through the regression process or do

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qhht that was originally set out by

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Dolores seek out the original

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Dolores trained

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uh people

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I'm saying that for a specific reason if

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they're not

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um just don't bother with it you know

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and so

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um

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what it was very very interesting it's a

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long process it's um

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um

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it's a process that basically it

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involves a lot of it it's a full

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interview that you kind of do about your

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whole life and that can take four or

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five hours so long and then of course

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however long the regression takes but uh

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success when it was great you know I

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have I have that session I even recorded

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it I have not edited it's been my

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Personal Collection or my files

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um I've had that for quite a long time

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now I don't know if I'll ever do

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anything with it but it was um very

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interesting to see how

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how that how that works and it gave me a

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different perspective about

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what that method allows to do is to kind

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of through a Surefire way process get

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you to go to places where before

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after my long experiences I was able to

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get through meditation but even prior to

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that before I knew anything just to get

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your feet wet having to like get

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um like

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um using

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um like Ayahuasca or some of these other

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plants or basically just have a

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um any of these what they're considered

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hallucigens to get to that state where

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qhht does it just Naturally by guiding

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you through the process and it's amazing

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what Dolores was able to to basically

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achieve to get you to that state and if

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you're working with a good person they

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take that time and patience to get you

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to that to that area to where you speak

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about things that you know you know you

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didn't experience in this life and

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um just basically just say whatever

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whatever comes through and if you have

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the opportunity always record it because

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then just revisiting it there used to be

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there used to be I don't know what

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exactly what time process or what time

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span where people that went through that

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process were always unconscious and

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whoever came through to speak through

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them that they wouldn't remember it they

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would have to listen to that tape to see

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like wow that was me that said that that

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went through this process but then

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something happened I think it was right

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around 2012. I don't want to make this

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you know more mysterious than what it

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actually is but

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um of a sudden they noticed the switch

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switch or shift to where people are

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conscious through that process as

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whatever it is that they're going

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through so they remember actually so

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they don't need to re-listen I mean they

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can for reference but they're aware

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they're they're not having to go into

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this deep sleep to where they have to be

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unconscious in order for information to

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come through so anyway I'm sorry I went

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on on this tangent but um uh yes I went

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through the process myself and I would

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Verona said mystery presentation so so

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apologies if you covered this question

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um oh another question I see and

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everyone says doctor

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Christopher kit green claims to have

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been

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um hoaxed at the Pentagon with fake

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alien autopsy material

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is this possible that this whistleblower

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Crush

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has been hoaxed and if so for what

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purpose well

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um that's interesting because

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um the possibility is always there the

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only thing different is that

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all these people before were always

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people that just came out to some

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obscure reporter that eventually made

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its way to an article or online but to

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have this individual having the ranks

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that he does and the connection to where

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Congress listens to him not that

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supposed to mean much but you know if

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we're gonna close our eyes and dumb

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ourselves down and think highly of

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Congress if they're listening to him

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there's something to him you know unless

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he's also hoax in Congress you know

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which then you get yourself in deep

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trouble but so far I was usually look at

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John Greenwald Black Vault he runs that

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he has his opinions on that and some of

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the other people that are in the field

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that are concentrating more on on the

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nuts and bolts papers and Freedom of

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Information acts I don't concentrate in

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that at all anymore as I mentioned once

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you once you've had your own experiences

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there's no paper that will ever

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um but to help you figure out what's

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going on it just becomes this Soul

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journey to where

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um you you use a whole different set of

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tools basically to move forward and you

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leave books papers and other things

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behind

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um once once you've had that

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um now of course I'm not poo pooing that

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process because that process is

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important because I was there at one

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point but if you keep growing and

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eventually get there all these

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individuals that I'm hoping you seek out

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are important in your process in your

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steps to getting to wherever you need to

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um Verona says I agree

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okay let's see let me let me check

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let me check telegram to see if we have

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someone who wants to speak yet nope so

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yeah don't be shy uh join me if you can

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speak to me otherwise like I said ask

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your questions please make sure you use

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the three asterisks before your question

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and they'll help me out a big deal

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otherwise like I said I'll just finish

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it off here and I'll catch you next week

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usually I have the the show

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um unless unless I you know until what

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the last time or the prior time I

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couldn't because

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um it was my daughter's birthday and all

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kinds of things were going on and I just

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[Music]

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um

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eckintar says I'm on telegram waiting

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um I'm not sure where on telegram you

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are but you have to telegram is a

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software that I don't control but you

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have to join the UFO Hub channel and in

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there you'll see a voice chat that's

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going on right now that you can join uh

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just being on telegram it's not going to

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get you directly to us in the

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description and below this video there's

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a link to the UFO up channel on telegram

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let's see what else we got

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I don't think this is specifically meant

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for me because I don't see the asterisk

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says but Kurt

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wrote so gresh went to arrow and

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Congress and talked yet there yet during

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the hearing Kirkpatrick told Congress no

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whistleblory came to him a lie and

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Congress knew it was a lie and said

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nothing

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sorry just trying to understand that

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oh I see okay I get it now

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um

557
00:24:54,289 --> 00:24:52,740
yeah well like I said there's there's

558
00:24:56,149 --> 00:24:54,299
other people like if you're on Twitter

559
00:24:59,510 --> 00:24:56,159
man I don't know

560
00:25:01,610 --> 00:24:59,520
um it's it it can get pretty heavy when

561
00:25:03,409 --> 00:25:01,620
it comes to uh being on there because

562
00:25:06,169 --> 00:25:03,419
people are bitching at each other

563
00:25:08,450 --> 00:25:06,179
complaining accusing all kinds of things

564
00:25:10,430 --> 00:25:08,460
you know and so

565
00:25:12,049 --> 00:25:10,440
um uh if there's anyone that's going to

566
00:25:14,390 --> 00:25:12,059
come get to the bottom of it to figure

567
00:25:16,130 --> 00:25:14,400
out whether or not this is a lie uh if

568
00:25:18,049 --> 00:25:16,140
that would be that place

569
00:25:20,090 --> 00:25:18,059
because

570
00:25:22,370 --> 00:25:20,100
um especially when you have uh people

571
00:25:25,250 --> 00:25:22,380
that also want to get to the bottom of

572
00:25:29,510 --> 00:25:25,260
it and you have an imposter Adele easily

573
00:25:29,520 --> 00:25:35,810
all right let's see

574
00:25:40,310 --> 00:25:39,049
I can start saying I'm watching you on

575
00:25:42,350 --> 00:25:40,320
telegram

576
00:25:44,510 --> 00:25:42,360
um I think you can only

577
00:25:50,210 --> 00:25:44,520
listen to me on telegram because I don't

578
00:25:50,220 --> 00:25:55,250
all right

579
00:26:00,169 --> 00:25:58,190
okay yeah I'm sorry for those that are

580
00:26:01,549 --> 00:26:00,179
just listening um actually just kind of

581
00:26:03,529 --> 00:26:01,559
looking around seeing if there's any

582
00:26:05,330 --> 00:26:03,539
other questions or anyone else that

583
00:26:06,950 --> 00:26:05,340
wants to speak

584
00:26:08,750 --> 00:26:06,960
um if you are on telegram there should

585
00:26:10,789 --> 00:26:08,760
be a little button with a person that

586
00:26:12,649 --> 00:26:10,799
looks like a raised hand you tap that

587
00:26:15,010 --> 00:26:12,659
and tell me that you want to talk to me

588
00:26:18,649 --> 00:26:15,020
and that way I can bring you in

589
00:26:21,649 --> 00:26:18,659
otherwise those that are just listening

590
00:26:23,330 --> 00:26:21,659
or want to listen uh that's why telegram

591
00:26:24,289 --> 00:26:23,340
is there for and I don't usually bother

592
00:26:27,230 --> 00:26:24,299
them

593
00:26:29,149 --> 00:26:27,240
okay all right David let me bring David

594
00:26:32,510 --> 00:26:29,159
in

595
00:26:34,909 --> 00:26:32,520
and I'm mute him so David you are

596
00:26:36,890 --> 00:26:34,919
unmuted on my end I mute yourself on

597
00:26:39,890 --> 00:26:36,900
yours and you should be able to speak to

598
00:26:44,750 --> 00:26:42,769
I hope I did that right yep I hear you

599
00:26:47,210 --> 00:26:44,760
loud and clear how are you

600
00:26:49,669 --> 00:26:47,220
oh just dandy it's great to be on your

601
00:26:53,090 --> 00:26:49,679
show I wanted to talk about something

602
00:26:57,110 --> 00:26:53,100
that happened to me uh 26 years ago I'm

603
00:26:58,850 --> 00:26:57,120
in Phoenix Arizona and David David okay

604
00:27:00,049 --> 00:26:58,860
I'm sorry dude to David that I've been

605
00:27:03,049 --> 00:27:00,059
in touch with

606
00:27:04,909 --> 00:27:03,059
yes okay good deal all right yeah no now

607
00:27:06,950 --> 00:27:04,919
it makes sense so anyway let me just

608
00:27:09,529 --> 00:27:06,960
give some quick context so David wanted

609
00:27:11,390 --> 00:27:09,539
to share the story uh I don't want to

610
00:27:13,730 --> 00:27:11,400
take your time away but I'll leave it up

611
00:27:16,850 --> 00:27:13,740
to you but I'm glad you found out how to

612
00:27:19,130 --> 00:27:16,860
get to to Telegram and speak to me today

613
00:27:22,430 --> 00:27:19,140
so all right I'll leave you be uh go

614
00:27:24,409 --> 00:27:22,440
ahead and tell tell your story please

615
00:27:27,350 --> 00:27:24,419
yeah it was um

616
00:27:31,330 --> 00:27:27,360
uh I'm an RN and at the time I was a

617
00:27:35,750 --> 00:27:31,340
hospice RN uh I did Hospice for 17 years

618
00:27:39,350 --> 00:27:35,760
and we had a 10 bed hospice inpatient

619
00:27:42,190 --> 00:27:39,360
unit in Mesa Arizona I lived in Phoenix

620
00:27:47,269 --> 00:27:42,200
so it was quite a drive back and forth

621
00:27:51,649 --> 00:27:47,279
and I did 12 hour shifts and uh March

622
00:27:55,490 --> 00:27:51,659
13th 1997 the night Sheriff that shift

623
00:27:58,250 --> 00:27:55,500
nurse came in late so I had to stay just

624
00:28:01,210 --> 00:27:58,260
a little bit later and that actually put

625
00:28:05,210 --> 00:28:01,220
me in the best place I could possibly be

626
00:28:09,649 --> 00:28:05,220
to have seen the Phoenix Lights so as I

627
00:28:12,110 --> 00:28:09,659
was driving home from Mesa to Phoenix I

628
00:28:15,370 --> 00:28:12,120
uh we have it at Route 60 at the time

629
00:28:19,010 --> 00:28:15,380
was undergoing a lot of

630
00:28:21,409 --> 00:28:19,020
remodeling and every time I came to an

631
00:28:23,510 --> 00:28:21,419
overpass I had to get off the freeway

632
00:28:26,090 --> 00:28:23,520
and go up the ramp and go over the

633
00:28:28,730 --> 00:28:26,100
overpass and then back onto the freeway

634
00:28:32,090 --> 00:28:28,740
so by the time I was getting almost into

635
00:28:35,330 --> 00:28:32,100
Tempe which is uh the suburb between

636
00:28:38,390 --> 00:28:35,340
Mesa and Phoenix I was going up over the

637
00:28:40,490 --> 00:28:38,400
overpass there was this huge mound of uh

638
00:28:43,850 --> 00:28:40,500
construction dirt and I had to drive up

639
00:28:46,070 --> 00:28:43,860
on it and very close to me was a street

640
00:28:48,049 --> 00:28:46,080
light and the street light was about

641
00:28:50,810 --> 00:28:48,059
parallel with me maybe it was about two

642
00:28:53,029 --> 00:28:50,820
feet over my head that's how elevated I

643
00:28:55,850 --> 00:28:53,039
was uh in the air

644
00:28:58,190 --> 00:28:55,860
and I was about to go down the hill and

645
00:29:00,970 --> 00:28:58,200
get back onto the freeway having to look

646
00:29:04,730 --> 00:29:00,980
out my window and here's this massive

647
00:29:06,230 --> 00:29:04,740
Boomerang flying towards me very low

648
00:29:09,110 --> 00:29:06,240
Slow and Low

649
00:29:11,810 --> 00:29:09,120
so I slammed on my brakes and it had the

650
00:29:14,930 --> 00:29:11,820
brights on my truck I got out of my

651
00:29:17,630 --> 00:29:14,940
truck about four o'clock behind me was

652
00:29:19,370 --> 00:29:17,640
the street light very bright shining

653
00:29:21,169 --> 00:29:19,380
down I had a lot of light there was

654
00:29:25,370 --> 00:29:21,179
still some ambient light from the city

655
00:29:29,029 --> 00:29:25,380
kind of shining up and here comes this

656
00:29:31,330 --> 00:29:29,039
like a banana shape uh Boomerang you

657
00:29:35,570 --> 00:29:31,340
know about that angle of a of a banana

658
00:29:37,909 --> 00:29:35,580
flying and coming closer and closer and

659
00:29:40,730 --> 00:29:37,919
the lights since I'm looking at it

660
00:29:43,730 --> 00:29:40,740
almost horizontal maybe at a 20 degree

661
00:29:48,830 --> 00:29:43,740
angle from uh from your normal resting

662
00:29:52,430 --> 00:29:48,840
uh vision of your eyes uh it looked like

663
00:29:54,830 --> 00:29:52,440
a fire was coming out of it and as I got

664
00:29:57,409 --> 00:29:54,840
closer and closer I was very concerned

665
00:30:01,010 --> 00:29:57,419
that I was going to get burned uh the

666
00:30:03,889 --> 00:30:01,020
nearest light was so close the if the

667
00:30:06,110 --> 00:30:03,899
craft had fallen to the ground I could

668
00:30:08,450 --> 00:30:06,120
have taken like two steps and kicked the

669
00:30:11,450 --> 00:30:08,460
tip of the left wing so it was almost

670
00:30:13,010 --> 00:30:11,460
exactly over my head as as it came up

671
00:30:16,610 --> 00:30:13,020
over me

672
00:30:18,529 --> 00:30:16,620
the uh the light was an opening in the

673
00:30:21,830 --> 00:30:18,539
bottom of the Craft

674
00:30:24,289 --> 00:30:21,840
um I could see a little bit of the uh

675
00:30:27,049 --> 00:30:24,299
The Far Side of the light maybe about

676
00:30:29,990 --> 00:30:27,059
eight inches up into it there was like a

677
00:30:33,289 --> 00:30:30,000
silver lining tube and out of that Port

678
00:30:35,990 --> 00:30:33,299
exactly what looked like lava and it was

679
00:30:38,570 --> 00:30:36,000
Orange Crush orange and it would drip

680
00:30:40,490 --> 00:30:38,580
down very thick in very viscous light

681
00:30:42,710 --> 00:30:40,500
come down

682
00:30:46,430 --> 00:30:42,720
um four to eight feet it would form

683
00:30:49,010 --> 00:30:46,440
large drips it would stop and then it

684
00:30:51,529 --> 00:30:49,020
went back up into the opening in the

685
00:30:54,169 --> 00:30:51,539
craft and there'd be you know five or

686
00:30:56,510 --> 00:30:54,179
six or seven huge massive drips of this

687
00:30:58,909 --> 00:30:56,520
stuff coming down and when someone's

688
00:31:02,029 --> 00:30:58,919
coming down someone's going back up kind

689
00:31:05,149 --> 00:31:02,039
of like a lava lamp but upside down

690
00:31:07,310 --> 00:31:05,159
and when the stuff returned back into

691
00:31:09,889 --> 00:31:07,320
the craft like if you're boiling

692
00:31:12,110 --> 00:31:09,899
something on the stove and boiling water

693
00:31:14,889 --> 00:31:12,120
the water splashes up and it goes up in

694
00:31:17,210 --> 00:31:14,899
the air and stops and it falls back down

695
00:31:20,090 --> 00:31:17,220
that's what the stuff looked like it

696
00:31:24,049 --> 00:31:20,100
looked like it fell up it it wasn't like

697
00:31:26,710 --> 00:31:24,059
sucked back up like a vacuum it looked

698
00:31:29,149 --> 00:31:26,720
like it fell up and this was

699
00:31:32,389 --> 00:31:29,159
continually going and there was like an

700
00:31:35,269 --> 00:31:32,399
orange glow on me from this stuff

701
00:31:38,210 --> 00:31:35,279
whatever it was that was coming out the

702
00:31:40,730 --> 00:31:38,220
bottom of the craft was indented with

703
00:31:45,649 --> 00:31:40,740
thousands and thousands of oval shaped

704
00:31:49,130 --> 00:31:45,659
indents with a very clear sharp edged

705
00:31:51,769 --> 00:31:49,140
um indentations into it I'm going to say

706
00:31:56,090 --> 00:31:51,779
they were about maybe uh two two and a

707
00:31:59,269 --> 00:31:56,100
half feet uh wide they went horizontally

708
00:32:01,250 --> 00:31:59,279
from the tip the left tip as far as I

709
00:32:04,190 --> 00:32:01,260
could see them inward I would imagine

710
00:32:06,970 --> 00:32:04,200
perhaps the whole bottom was covered but

711
00:32:10,909 --> 00:32:06,980
this craft was at least a mile wide

712
00:32:13,310 --> 00:32:10,919
so I I was more focused on this this

713
00:32:15,889 --> 00:32:13,320
lava stuff dripping down because I was

714
00:32:19,490 --> 00:32:15,899
afraid I was going to get burned it uh

715
00:32:22,250 --> 00:32:19,500
as it would stretch it would turn almost

716
00:32:25,490 --> 00:32:22,260
yellow and then what would form big

717
00:32:28,070 --> 00:32:25,500
drips it would go back to Orange and uh

718
00:32:30,769 --> 00:32:28,080
but there was no heat there was no sound

719
00:32:34,070 --> 00:32:30,779
there was no wind it didn't disturb the

720
00:32:37,490 --> 00:32:34,080
dust it didn't blow dust in my eye uh no

721
00:32:39,470 --> 00:32:37,500
odor uh my skin didn't tingle my hair

722
00:32:41,389 --> 00:32:39,480
didn't burn and I was paying attention

723
00:32:44,169 --> 00:32:41,399
to all that I'm a nurse and you think

724
00:32:47,510 --> 00:32:44,179
you know you know

725
00:32:50,090 --> 00:32:47,520
reactions to something like this it was

726
00:32:52,010 --> 00:32:50,100
absolutely no sound

727
00:32:54,830 --> 00:32:52,020
and um

728
00:32:57,049 --> 00:32:54,840
as it passed overhead

729
00:32:59,510 --> 00:32:57,059
um there was like streams of a colorful

730
00:33:01,130 --> 00:32:59,520
Mist it looked like like a flag from

731
00:33:04,789 --> 00:33:01,140
Disneyland It's kind of what it looked

732
00:33:07,630 --> 00:33:04,799
like it was uh thick as it came out of

733
00:33:10,549 --> 00:33:07,640
the back of the craft and then it would

734
00:33:13,130 --> 00:33:10,559
tapered down to just to find these thin

735
00:33:16,850 --> 00:33:13,140
Trail and it woe so kind of like a flag

736
00:33:19,310 --> 00:33:16,860
waving in in the wind and again I felt

737
00:33:21,470 --> 00:33:19,320
nothing there was no like Mist Falling

738
00:33:23,570 --> 00:33:21,480
on My Face there was no odor there

739
00:33:27,529 --> 00:33:23,580
wasn't anything like that

740
00:33:30,669 --> 00:33:27,539
and as it went out as the Mist went over

741
00:33:33,110 --> 00:33:30,679
my head and the craft was flying south

742
00:33:35,570 --> 00:33:33,120
it kind of veered a little bit to the

743
00:33:37,909 --> 00:33:35,580
West went down through Chandler Arizona

744
00:33:40,009 --> 00:33:37,919
and I just stood there you know staring

745
00:33:41,750 --> 00:33:40,019
at it until it went out of sight and I

746
00:33:44,690 --> 00:33:41,760
was hoping somebody would come up and

747
00:33:46,250 --> 00:33:44,700
and stop I wanted to share this moment

748
00:33:48,830 --> 00:33:46,260
with someone but it was just me out

749
00:33:51,950 --> 00:33:48,840
there and uh and I just stood there and

750
00:33:55,789 --> 00:33:51,960
I started crying I was just overwhelmed

751
00:33:57,950 --> 00:33:55,799
with like the sense of gratitude and I

752
00:34:00,769 --> 00:33:57,960
don't know if I did that to me or if the

753
00:34:05,029 --> 00:34:00,779
craft did that to me but that feeling

754
00:34:08,210 --> 00:34:05,039
has stayed with me for now 26 years and

755
00:34:10,970 --> 00:34:08,220
it's not just something I feel every now

756
00:34:13,190 --> 00:34:10,980
and then it's like 24 hours a day now

757
00:34:16,010 --> 00:34:13,200
for over a quarter of a century

758
00:34:18,470 --> 00:34:16,020
and I was a hospice nurse so you got to

759
00:34:21,109 --> 00:34:18,480
be kind of a nice guy anyway but yeah

760
00:34:23,329 --> 00:34:21,119
boy I'd get on the road oh I would have

761
00:34:25,250 --> 00:34:23,339
road rage and you know I'd be honking my

762
00:34:29,089 --> 00:34:25,260
horns and people and pulling in front of

763
00:34:31,490 --> 00:34:29,099
them slamming on the brakes and uh since

764
00:34:34,369 --> 00:34:31,500
that night I have never honked my horn

765
00:34:36,829 --> 00:34:34,379
once and I let people cut in line in

766
00:34:40,129 --> 00:34:36,839
front of me at the grocery store I let

767
00:34:43,089 --> 00:34:40,139
people go in front of me it's I've had

768
00:34:47,930 --> 00:34:43,099
such a positive wonderful uh benefit

769
00:34:50,389 --> 00:34:47,940
from seeing uh that craft at night I

770
00:34:53,210 --> 00:34:50,399
felt like something inside ticked like

771
00:34:55,790 --> 00:34:53,220
something in my head like maybe moved a

772
00:34:59,570 --> 00:34:55,800
quarter of an inch I just felt something

773
00:35:02,089 --> 00:34:59,580
something change and uh

774
00:35:04,010 --> 00:35:02,099
it's just been a blessing it's like

775
00:35:07,150 --> 00:35:04,020
hitting the lottery

776
00:35:11,270 --> 00:35:09,470
yeah I'm sorry to entrap them that's

777
00:35:14,030 --> 00:35:11,280
that's been an event that's

778
00:35:15,770 --> 00:35:14,040
um it's been very prevalent you know

779
00:35:18,170 --> 00:35:15,780
just for those who have been following

780
00:35:20,390 --> 00:35:18,180
ufology for a very long time and even

781
00:35:23,089 --> 00:35:20,400
the the uh was it the mayor of the

782
00:35:25,190 --> 00:35:23,099
governor that initially uh declined

783
00:35:27,109 --> 00:35:25,200
basically pooh-pooed it you know and

784
00:35:29,030 --> 00:35:27,119
then came back and said I'm sorry you

785
00:35:30,650 --> 00:35:29,040
know that I did that but he was worried

786
00:35:33,589 --> 00:35:30,660
for other reasons or whatever and

787
00:35:36,410 --> 00:35:33,599
actually confirmed that this event was

788
00:35:39,230 --> 00:35:36,420
happening over Phoenix

789
00:35:41,270 --> 00:35:39,240
yes the governor came out and made a big

790
00:35:44,150 --> 00:35:41,280
joke about it and had somebody dressed

791
00:35:47,210 --> 00:35:44,160
up in a in a you know a UFO an alien

792
00:35:48,950 --> 00:35:47,220
costume but at the time our governor was

793
00:35:51,290 --> 00:35:48,960
indicted

794
00:35:54,230 --> 00:35:51,300
um or there was some um uh building

795
00:35:56,390 --> 00:35:54,240
contracts that supposedly

796
00:35:59,630 --> 00:35:56,400
um he was involved in that he shouldn't

797
00:36:02,390 --> 00:35:59,640
have been and as I recall he was uh he

798
00:36:06,230 --> 00:36:02,400
was found guilty but Clinton

799
00:36:08,569 --> 00:36:06,240
um you know gave him a pardon and uh

800
00:36:11,150 --> 00:36:08,579
you know who knows what pressure was put

801
00:36:13,430 --> 00:36:11,160
on him at that time to say what he did

802
00:36:16,970 --> 00:36:13,440
but later he recanted all of it and said

803
00:36:20,089 --> 00:36:16,980
he saw it a lot of people saw it

804
00:36:22,130 --> 00:36:20,099
um and I spoke at um the last couple uh

805
00:36:24,589 --> 00:36:22,140
annual events we have here in in

806
00:36:27,170 --> 00:36:24,599
Scottsdale Arizona on the anniversary of

807
00:36:29,990 --> 00:36:27,180
the Phoenix Lights and a lot of people

808
00:36:32,210 --> 00:36:30,000
saw the light but not everybody saw the

809
00:36:35,390 --> 00:36:32,220
craft and some of the people saw the

810
00:36:38,270 --> 00:36:35,400
craft as a V and for me it was it was

811
00:36:42,170 --> 00:36:38,280
just a it was a nice smooth Sleek

812
00:36:44,750 --> 00:36:42,180
Boomerang shape and no one that I know

813
00:36:47,390 --> 00:36:44,760
of saw this stuff dripping down I think

814
00:36:50,270 --> 00:36:47,400
they were looking up more directly into

815
00:36:54,410 --> 00:36:50,280
the light and as it would pour down

816
00:36:57,410 --> 00:36:54,420
maybe you know they would say um uh

817
00:37:00,290 --> 00:36:57,420
orange and yellow swirls I saw it at an

818
00:37:02,690 --> 00:37:00,300
angle and it was very high to it and as

819
00:37:04,430 --> 00:37:02,700
it came overhead I thought I wonder what

820
00:37:07,550 --> 00:37:04,440
it would hit that sound like if I hit it

821
00:37:10,430 --> 00:37:07,560
with a rock I was probably 30 feet

822
00:37:12,170 --> 00:37:10,440
underneath the tip of the left wing and

823
00:37:14,450 --> 00:37:12,180
I was sure I could hit it with a rock

824
00:37:16,609 --> 00:37:14,460
and I'm here on a construction site and

825
00:37:18,890 --> 00:37:16,619
there's rocks all over and I almost bent

826
00:37:21,470 --> 00:37:18,900
down to get one to you know Chuck a rock

827
00:37:24,290 --> 00:37:21,480
and is it going to Echo what you know

828
00:37:25,670 --> 00:37:24,300
who knows is it paper I don't know but

829
00:37:29,870 --> 00:37:25,680
then I got to thinking there might be

830
00:37:32,630 --> 00:37:29,880
some very bad consequences so um though

831
00:37:35,990 --> 00:37:32,640
now you know 26 years later I kind of do

832
00:37:37,430 --> 00:37:36,000
wish I'd thrown one but you know it's

833
00:37:40,190 --> 00:37:37,440
probably not a nice thing to have done

834
00:37:42,050 --> 00:37:40,200
well I wanted to ask you something um I

835
00:37:43,670 --> 00:37:42,060
don't want to interrupt if you if you

836
00:37:45,650 --> 00:37:43,680
wanted to just continue and and

837
00:37:47,329 --> 00:37:45,660
basically tell more of it I apologize

838
00:37:49,130 --> 00:37:47,339
you just got me intrigued to ask some

839
00:37:51,290 --> 00:37:49,140
questions so whichever way you want to

840
00:37:52,849 --> 00:37:51,300
go please just let me know I'll make

841
00:37:55,130 --> 00:37:52,859
sure you shut up

842
00:37:56,150 --> 00:37:55,140
um okay so it's okay if I interrupt you

843
00:37:58,430 --> 00:37:56,160
real quick

844
00:38:02,690 --> 00:37:58,440
sure all right uh what I wanted to ask

845
00:38:05,150 --> 00:38:02,700
so how long in its entirety uh can you

846
00:38:08,990 --> 00:38:05,160
do you did you even know how long did

847
00:38:14,150 --> 00:38:10,430
um I don't know how long it stayed over

848
00:38:16,970 --> 00:38:14,160
Phoenix um there's a timeline uh on a

849
00:38:21,710 --> 00:38:16,980
documentary it was like maybe 20 minutes

850
00:38:25,670 --> 00:38:21,720
uh 30 minutes over Phoenix proper and uh

851
00:38:27,710 --> 00:38:25,680
it came from uh Northern Arizona as I

852
00:38:30,890 --> 00:38:27,720
was told the first account was in

853
00:38:35,329 --> 00:38:30,900
Henderson Nevada and uh when you come

854
00:38:38,329 --> 00:38:35,339
north into Phoenix we have uh this huge

855
00:38:41,510 --> 00:38:38,339
uh elevation change we go from like five

856
00:38:43,190 --> 00:38:41,520
thousand feet down to to like five

857
00:38:46,370 --> 00:38:43,200
thousand probably three thirty five

858
00:38:49,670 --> 00:38:46,380
hundred feet down to a thousand feet and

859
00:38:52,910 --> 00:38:49,680
it's a it's a very quick and very steep

860
00:38:54,410 --> 00:38:52,920
uh we call it the switchbacks to drive

861
00:38:57,710 --> 00:38:54,420
down so

862
00:38:59,990 --> 00:38:57,720
it seemed to follow the terrain because

863
00:39:02,329 --> 00:39:00,000
the people I uh that I've also talked to

864
00:39:06,050 --> 00:39:02,339
said it just went over their rooftops

865
00:39:08,690 --> 00:39:06,060
and it was 30 feet over my head so it

866
00:39:10,430 --> 00:39:08,700
had to descend with the terrain into

867
00:39:12,950 --> 00:39:10,440
Phoenix

868
00:39:16,250 --> 00:39:12,960
um it went very slow it just was taking

869
00:39:17,990 --> 00:39:16,260
its time it was just coasting by I

870
00:39:20,030 --> 00:39:18,000
watched it for a good 10 minutes after

871
00:39:22,370 --> 00:39:20,040
it went over my head as it went down

872
00:39:25,250 --> 00:39:22,380
south and it seemed to go back over

873
00:39:29,510 --> 00:39:25,260
towards the freeway we have the freeway

874
00:39:32,810 --> 00:39:29,520
going down from Phoenix down to Tucson

875
00:39:34,849 --> 00:39:32,820
um you know I don't remember I was uh

876
00:39:35,870 --> 00:39:34,859
was it was it only one night or did it

877
00:39:38,030 --> 00:39:35,880
come back

878
00:39:42,170 --> 00:39:38,040
um several nights was that just one time

879
00:39:44,569 --> 00:39:42,180
thing interesting and years later

880
00:39:46,910 --> 00:39:44,579
um after 17 years of hospice I needed to

881
00:39:49,370 --> 00:39:46,920
see people get better for you know after

882
00:39:53,030 --> 00:39:49,380
for a change so I became an emergency

883
00:39:56,390 --> 00:39:53,040
new rumors for about uh nearly 20 years

884
00:39:57,970 --> 00:39:56,400
and one of my patients one day was a

885
00:40:01,310 --> 00:39:57,980
retired Sheriff from the Navajo

886
00:40:03,170 --> 00:40:01,320
reservation up in northern Arizona and I

887
00:40:05,569 --> 00:40:03,180
don't know how we got on the subject but

888
00:40:09,410 --> 00:40:05,579
we were talking about it and he said

889
00:40:12,829 --> 00:40:09,420
that for two days prior to the March

890
00:40:16,250 --> 00:40:12,839
13th sighting over Phoenix he said that

891
00:40:19,670 --> 00:40:16,260
there were at least 20 Craft on uh

892
00:40:21,890 --> 00:40:19,680
flying over the Navajo reservation and

893
00:40:24,650 --> 00:40:21,900
landing and he said he could see people

894
00:40:26,030 --> 00:40:24,660
on the mesas and a mesa's Like A flat

895
00:40:27,890 --> 00:40:26,040
hill

896
00:40:29,750 --> 00:40:27,900
um that the craft would land and he

897
00:40:31,910 --> 00:40:29,760
could see beings get out and look like

898
00:40:35,150 --> 00:40:31,920
they were working or something on on The

899
00:40:36,890 --> 00:40:35,160
Craft and get back in and he said there

900
00:40:39,230 --> 00:40:36,900
were so many that his neighbors actually

901
00:40:41,690 --> 00:40:39,240
took the lawn for the living room

902
00:40:42,710 --> 00:40:41,700
furniture and put it in the yard so they

903
00:40:46,670 --> 00:40:42,720
could watch

904
00:40:48,290 --> 00:40:46,680
and uh he talked he was the sheriff and

905
00:40:50,210 --> 00:40:48,300
he talked to others there and they

906
00:40:51,829 --> 00:40:50,220
decided not to report it because they

907
00:40:53,990 --> 00:40:51,839
didn't want a bunch of white people

908
00:40:57,230 --> 00:40:54,000
coming onto their land

909
00:40:58,670 --> 00:40:57,240
and it's like oh my gosh well that's no

910
00:41:00,650 --> 00:40:58,680
that's intriguing

911
00:41:03,050 --> 00:41:00,660
well you know especially with that event

912
00:41:05,569 --> 00:41:03,060
that's a that's a mass sighting I would

913
00:41:08,390 --> 00:41:05,579
consider that just for Phoenix alone to

914
00:41:10,849 --> 00:41:08,400
have something that big hover over it

915
00:41:15,470 --> 00:41:10,859
um uh well especially what what was that

916
00:41:17,390 --> 00:41:15,480
90 97 right 97 yeah yeah especially

917
00:41:20,270 --> 00:41:17,400
people were different than people were

918
00:41:22,010 --> 00:41:20,280
outside more unless I'm gravely mistaken

919
00:41:24,589 --> 00:41:22,020
I was still I think I was still in

920
00:41:26,390 --> 00:41:24,599
Germany then but uh just understanding a

921
00:41:28,609 --> 00:41:26,400
little bit you know late 90s American

922
00:41:30,650 --> 00:41:28,619
culture you know people were a lot more

923
00:41:32,450 --> 00:41:30,660
outgoing than they are today and stuck

924
00:41:34,190 --> 00:41:32,460
in their homes watching Netflix all day

925
00:41:36,589 --> 00:41:34,200
you know so there must have been a lot

926
00:41:38,270 --> 00:41:36,599
more people that have seen this

927
00:41:40,609 --> 00:41:38,280
the um

928
00:41:42,470 --> 00:41:40,619
um the big thing here in Arizona I mean

929
00:41:44,270 --> 00:41:42,480
everywhere else in the country people

930
00:41:46,490 --> 00:41:44,280
are Frozen in in the winter well we're

931
00:41:49,190 --> 00:41:46,500
baked in in the summer here so when it's

932
00:41:52,430 --> 00:41:49,200
nice weather we are outside a lot but

933
00:41:54,349 --> 00:41:52,440
the hillbop comet was in the sky and a

934
00:41:57,290 --> 00:41:54,359
lot of people supposedly were outside to

935
00:41:59,750 --> 00:41:57,300
see the comet so it was like a perfect

936
00:42:01,790 --> 00:41:59,760
um time if something wanted to be seen

937
00:42:03,170 --> 00:42:01,800
and of course I have no idea if it did

938
00:42:05,750 --> 00:42:03,180
or didn't

939
00:42:09,410 --> 00:42:05,760
um that it flew over the valley

940
00:42:12,109 --> 00:42:09,420
um Dr Lynn kitai wrote a book and did a

941
00:42:13,910 --> 00:42:12,119
documentary on this and she says for

942
00:42:17,710 --> 00:42:13,920
other reports that there were nine other

943
00:42:21,530 --> 00:42:17,720
craft between uh Western California

944
00:42:24,230 --> 00:42:21,540
across Arizona and into Eastern New

945
00:42:27,109 --> 00:42:24,240
Mexico that night she said it was almost

946
00:42:30,290 --> 00:42:27,119
like a UFO parade going from north to

947
00:42:32,329 --> 00:42:30,300
south and I guess one of the craft was

948
00:42:36,010 --> 00:42:32,339
seen later earlier in the morning

949
00:42:42,290 --> 00:42:39,109
oh that's that is awesome that is you

950
00:42:44,210 --> 00:42:42,300
know just um I mean I've heard about the

951
00:42:45,410 --> 00:42:44,220
event before I'm sorry I don't have all

952
00:42:47,569 --> 00:42:45,420
the details but I've never actually

953
00:42:49,370 --> 00:42:47,579
spoken to somebody who was there you

954
00:42:51,410 --> 00:42:49,380
know and um just listening to you

955
00:42:53,329 --> 00:42:51,420
obviously it's not any kind of

956
00:42:54,950 --> 00:42:53,339
scientific way to figure out whether or

957
00:42:57,349 --> 00:42:54,960
not you're telling the truth but I

958
00:42:59,750 --> 00:42:57,359
certainly you know uh trust your voice

959
00:43:01,309 --> 00:42:59,760
when I hear it um unless my Spidey

960
00:43:04,569 --> 00:43:01,319
senses are broken down too and you're

961
00:43:08,210 --> 00:43:04,579
just lying to me and I wouldn't know it

962
00:43:10,309 --> 00:43:08,220
the um well I sat on it for quite a bit

963
00:43:12,050 --> 00:43:10,319
because especially when the governor

964
00:43:14,569 --> 00:43:12,060
came out and made such a big joke about

965
00:43:15,589 --> 00:43:14,579
it and uh

966
00:43:17,870 --> 00:43:15,599
um

967
00:43:20,510 --> 00:43:17,880
the nice thing I could talk about my to

968
00:43:23,030 --> 00:43:20,520
my friends my co-workers because so many

969
00:43:24,890 --> 00:43:23,040
other people saw it too and I worked

970
00:43:27,349 --> 00:43:24,900
with a social worker who's seen it that

971
00:43:29,510 --> 00:43:27,359
nice and another nurse

972
00:43:31,550 --> 00:43:29,520
um she worked at another facility but

973
00:43:35,150 --> 00:43:31,560
with the same company I would the same

974
00:43:38,329 --> 00:43:35,160
hospice I was with and she saw it but um

975
00:43:40,190 --> 00:43:38,339
over over the years I I didn't think

976
00:43:45,290 --> 00:43:40,200
anybody had any interest I knew nothing

977
00:43:46,970 --> 00:43:45,300
about mufon I had no interest in UFOs I

978
00:43:49,150 --> 00:43:46,980
later had a couple other weird things

979
00:43:52,010 --> 00:43:49,160
happen when I was camping in the desert

980
00:43:54,890 --> 00:43:52,020
and that's kind of brought you know my

981
00:43:57,170 --> 00:43:54,900
interest into UFOs and aliens

982
00:44:00,349 --> 00:43:57,180
um to the Forefront but I just found

983
00:44:02,270 --> 00:44:00,359
mufon just a few years ago and came

984
00:44:05,050 --> 00:44:02,280
forward with all this stuff

985
00:44:07,069 --> 00:44:05,060
it's um

986
00:44:09,530 --> 00:44:07,079
go ahead

987
00:44:12,589 --> 00:44:09,540
I don't it was it was

988
00:44:14,210 --> 00:44:12,599
looking up at it I mean that's like the

989
00:44:16,130 --> 00:44:14,220
tip of the left wing was pretty much

990
00:44:18,950 --> 00:44:16,140
almost over my head

991
00:44:22,130 --> 00:44:18,960
and then looking at the tip of the right

992
00:44:24,290 --> 00:44:22,140
wing so that's a 90 degree angle between

993
00:44:27,770 --> 00:44:24,300
me looking directly up and then looking

994
00:44:30,829 --> 00:44:27,780
at the Horizon that craft took about 75

995
00:44:33,829 --> 00:44:30,839
degrees of that 90 degrees so my

996
00:44:36,530 --> 00:44:33,839
estimate would be at least a mile wide

997
00:44:38,990 --> 00:44:36,540
from tip to tip and those little

998
00:44:42,170 --> 00:44:39,000
indentations they were all over the

999
00:44:45,109 --> 00:44:42,180
place I they weren't on the side I could

1000
00:44:47,210 --> 00:44:45,119
see just a little bit up the side of the

1001
00:44:49,550 --> 00:44:47,220
tip of the left wing and when I see

1002
00:44:51,950 --> 00:44:49,560
people draw it they they make the the

1003
00:44:54,170 --> 00:44:51,960
again the craft look like a triangle

1004
00:44:56,390 --> 00:44:54,180
which it wasn't and they make the the

1005
00:44:59,150 --> 00:44:56,400
tip of the Wings a point and it wasn't

1006
00:45:02,450 --> 00:44:59,160
they were rounded horizontally and

1007
00:45:05,450 --> 00:45:02,460
rounded vertically and there was no

1008
00:45:08,329 --> 00:45:05,460
indentations on the side I couldn't see

1009
00:45:10,790 --> 00:45:08,339
up high I couldn't you know the

1010
00:45:12,349 --> 00:45:10,800
thickness of The Craft I have no idea if

1011
00:45:15,050 --> 00:45:12,359
there are windows or anything I could

1012
00:45:20,210 --> 00:45:15,060
just see the bottom and then that that

1013
00:45:22,370 --> 00:45:20,220
mist coming out in flags and it was as

1014
00:45:26,930 --> 00:45:22,380
far as I could see they it was like

1015
00:45:29,630 --> 00:45:26,940
streams of this colorful sparkly Mist

1016
00:45:31,550 --> 00:45:29,640
um rainbow colored and and it just

1017
00:45:34,190 --> 00:45:31,560
dissipated afterwards

1018
00:45:36,589 --> 00:45:34,200
so if it wasn't a triangle I actually

1019
00:45:38,569 --> 00:45:36,599
want to ask a few questions that um one

1020
00:45:41,750 --> 00:45:38,579
regarding the design

1021
00:45:45,349 --> 00:45:41,760
um for what I remember was it because of

1022
00:45:48,530 --> 00:45:45,359
the the way the lights were laid out was

1023
00:45:50,150 --> 00:45:48,540
it more of a shape of a boomerang and um

1024
00:45:51,950 --> 00:45:50,160
uh the other question that I

1025
00:45:54,589 --> 00:45:51,960
specifically want to ask was more of

1026
00:45:57,770 --> 00:45:54,599
this like personal effect nature you

1027
00:46:00,349 --> 00:45:57,780
were have you talked to anyone else then

1028
00:46:02,390 --> 00:46:00,359
you know like you said in the in such a

1029
00:46:04,849 --> 00:46:02,400
detail to where they might have shared

1030
00:46:07,069 --> 00:46:04,859
similar story about this behavioral

1031
00:46:09,170 --> 00:46:07,079
change that you've experienced and also

1032
00:46:11,990 --> 00:46:09,180
were there any kind of like dreams or

1033
00:46:14,750 --> 00:46:12,000
anything weird for a long time happening

1034
00:46:18,950 --> 00:46:17,870
um the people I talked to and um you

1035
00:46:21,349 --> 00:46:18,960
know

1036
00:46:23,569 --> 00:46:21,359
at our annual event they would have

1037
00:46:26,990 --> 00:46:23,579
different Witnesses come up nobody

1038
00:46:30,170 --> 00:46:27,000
seemed to have the same uh emotional

1039
00:46:33,670 --> 00:46:30,180
change that I had it was

1040
00:46:37,790 --> 00:46:33,680
I just felt like something in me change

1041
00:46:40,069 --> 00:46:37,800
and and I don't want to read into it uh

1042
00:46:42,829 --> 00:46:40,079
more than I want to keep everything as

1043
00:46:46,430 --> 00:46:42,839
authentic as to what exactly happened

1044
00:46:48,770 --> 00:46:46,440
that evening I don't know if if I did it

1045
00:46:50,870 --> 00:46:48,780
to myself or if they zap me with

1046
00:46:52,130 --> 00:46:50,880
something but I could feel like

1047
00:46:55,790 --> 00:46:52,140
something

1048
00:46:58,210 --> 00:46:55,800
like move just a fraction of an inch

1049
00:47:02,390 --> 00:46:58,220
inside like my head like a little tick

1050
00:47:05,390 --> 00:47:02,400
that's weird and I remember that but uh

1051
00:47:09,109 --> 00:47:05,400
the only change in my life was I've just

1052
00:47:11,750 --> 00:47:09,119
become a nicer gentle or peaceful

1053
00:47:14,630 --> 00:47:11,760
um smile I I live alone and I sit here

1054
00:47:16,849 --> 00:47:14,640
at night and I smile and I catch myself

1055
00:47:19,790 --> 00:47:16,859
and my friends and my co-workers all

1056
00:47:22,250 --> 00:47:19,800
noticed a big change my personality and

1057
00:47:24,589 --> 00:47:22,260
now for over a quarter of a century

1058
00:47:27,290 --> 00:47:24,599
it's consistent it's not just now and

1059
00:47:30,050 --> 00:47:27,300
then it's 24 hours a day year after year

1060
00:47:33,349 --> 00:47:30,060
after year after year after year and uh

1061
00:47:34,490 --> 00:47:33,359
you know what what why was that I don't

1062
00:47:37,609 --> 00:47:34,500
know

1063
00:47:40,430 --> 00:47:37,619
I have no idea and uh and the boom rank

1064
00:47:43,370 --> 00:47:40,440
shape I don't know why some people saw

1065
00:47:46,190 --> 00:47:43,380
it as a as a triangle I was talking to a

1066
00:47:49,010 --> 00:47:46,200
guy his name's Dawn something and he

1067
00:47:51,230 --> 00:47:49,020
does 3D animation and I he asked for my

1068
00:47:54,230 --> 00:47:51,240
phone number or my email address he's

1069
00:47:58,970 --> 00:47:54,240
writing a book doing a book on classic

1070
00:48:01,069 --> 00:47:58,980
UFOs and he's uh doing 3D animation

1071
00:48:03,349 --> 00:48:01,079
that's seeing something at a different

1072
00:48:06,290 --> 00:48:03,359
angle how it looks like a completely

1073
00:48:08,410 --> 00:48:06,300
different craft and he's doing a talk I

1074
00:48:10,910 --> 00:48:08,420
think it's coming up at the UFO Congress

1075
00:48:13,730 --> 00:48:10,920
in October

1076
00:48:16,370 --> 00:48:13,740
um I haven't heard back from him but he

1077
00:48:17,930 --> 00:48:16,380
wants to add some of my details when he

1078
00:48:20,510 --> 00:48:17,940
does the drawing on the Phoenix life

1079
00:48:23,510 --> 00:48:20,520
craft

1080
00:48:25,309 --> 00:48:23,520
okay so yeah what I'm um I I don't know

1081
00:48:27,410 --> 00:48:25,319
if you can because there's a delay

1082
00:48:29,210 --> 00:48:27,420
between uh Telegram and if you're

1083
00:48:31,430 --> 00:48:29,220
watching something so I'm glad you're

1084
00:48:33,470 --> 00:48:31,440
just on there with me on telegram so

1085
00:48:35,630 --> 00:48:33,480
that you don't get confused but in case

1086
00:48:38,510 --> 00:48:35,640
you are not watching I'm letting you

1087
00:48:40,250 --> 00:48:38,520
know I am watching okay I'm just showing

1088
00:48:43,370 --> 00:48:40,260
um just a quick search Phoenix Lights

1089
00:48:46,370 --> 00:48:43,380
graphic and um just seeing what Google

1090
00:48:47,510 --> 00:48:46,380
comes up with and um is if you are

1091
00:48:49,490 --> 00:48:47,520
seeing this

1092
00:48:52,730 --> 00:48:49,500
um what about this Phoenix slides

1093
00:48:55,849 --> 00:48:52,740
Wikipedia does that resemble that or is

1094
00:48:58,010 --> 00:48:55,859
it or is it something entirely different

1095
00:48:59,510 --> 00:48:58,020
they're on the on the top on the right

1096
00:49:01,730 --> 00:48:59,520
and the left where you just see the

1097
00:49:05,150 --> 00:49:01,740
lights and the Darkness these two uh you

1098
00:49:07,630 --> 00:49:05,160
can uh not the the other there you are

1099
00:49:12,170 --> 00:49:07,640
just the lights in the darkness

1100
00:49:15,710 --> 00:49:12,180
there that one yep yeah see it's got a

1101
00:49:19,309 --> 00:49:15,720
slight Bend to it it's uh that's

1102
00:49:21,410 --> 00:49:19,319
Boomerang versus the triangle drawing

1103
00:49:25,130 --> 00:49:21,420
but other people say they saw the

1104
00:49:28,730 --> 00:49:25,140
triangle and so many just saw lights and

1105
00:49:32,030 --> 00:49:28,740
saw no shape at all but maybe it's from

1106
00:49:35,230 --> 00:49:32,040
where I was in um in kind of Tempe going

1107
00:49:38,089 --> 00:49:35,240
into Phoenix that I could I saw it

1108
00:49:40,609 --> 00:49:38,099
sideways more than looking up at it I

1109
00:49:43,910 --> 00:49:40,619
saw it more horizontally right and as it

1110
00:49:46,790 --> 00:49:43,920
was I was elevated and the craft was low

1111
00:49:48,470 --> 00:49:46,800
so we were very close to each other I

1112
00:49:52,069 --> 00:49:48,480
was right and it's you know kind of

1113
00:49:54,950 --> 00:49:52,079
direct path and I could clearly see it

1114
00:49:56,990 --> 00:49:54,960
was Boomerang shape so

1115
00:50:00,530 --> 00:49:57,000
I I can't explain that and I can't

1116
00:50:03,109 --> 00:50:00,540
explain why no one else has uh reported

1117
00:50:06,170 --> 00:50:03,119
seeing this liquid lava stuff dripping

1118
00:50:08,390 --> 00:50:06,180
out and sucking back in I I just wanted

1119
00:50:10,130 --> 00:50:08,400
to pull something up so that anyone

1120
00:50:11,870 --> 00:50:10,140
watching can at least

1121
00:50:14,930 --> 00:50:11,880
um with your confirmation kind of get an

1122
00:50:17,390 --> 00:50:14,940
idea what exactly is it is that you saw

1123
00:50:20,270 --> 00:50:17,400
because this footage is you know good

1124
00:50:22,730 --> 00:50:20,280
old 1997 probably you know eight

1125
00:50:24,950 --> 00:50:22,740
millimeter can Canon camera

1126
00:50:26,930 --> 00:50:24,960
a lot of a lot of stuff that's still

1127
00:50:28,550 --> 00:50:26,940
available because I don't know was there

1128
00:50:30,950 --> 00:50:28,560
any news crew that was able to capture

1129
00:50:34,250 --> 00:50:30,960
it with their cameras do you know

1130
00:50:38,030 --> 00:50:34,260
I think it was out of sight before

1131
00:50:40,130 --> 00:50:38,040
um anyone officially went after it uh

1132
00:50:43,430 --> 00:50:40,140
who knows a friend of mine this lady I

1133
00:50:45,290 --> 00:50:43,440
met years later who um is by the air

1134
00:50:46,790 --> 00:50:45,300
force base on the other end of the

1135
00:50:49,089 --> 00:50:46,800
valley

1136
00:50:52,309 --> 00:50:49,099
um I guess the Air Force denied anything

1137
00:50:55,670 --> 00:50:52,319
uh was going on but she was in her

1138
00:50:58,569 --> 00:50:55,680
backyard and saw the craft saw a jet

1139
00:51:02,750 --> 00:50:58,579
take off from the Air Force and Chase it

1140
00:51:05,270 --> 00:51:02,760
so how can they deny that it flew over

1141
00:51:06,710 --> 00:51:05,280
Phoenix when you know there's here's at

1142
00:51:11,270 --> 00:51:06,720
least one I don't know how many other

1143
00:51:14,210 --> 00:51:11,280
Witnesses saw Kraft jets go after it

1144
00:51:16,190 --> 00:51:14,220
um I I don't know if anybody else was

1145
00:51:18,290 --> 00:51:16,200
out there taking pictures you know we

1146
00:51:21,109 --> 00:51:18,300
didn't have cell phones with cameras and

1147
00:51:23,150 --> 00:51:21,119
and in Arizona it gets so hot you don't

1148
00:51:26,210 --> 00:51:23,160
get used to keeping a camera in your car

1149
00:51:28,250 --> 00:51:26,220
because it'll burn up and if I did have

1150
00:51:31,069 --> 00:51:28,260
a camera in my truck I wouldn't have

1151
00:51:33,109 --> 00:51:31,079
taken my eyes off of this thing to run

1152
00:51:35,329 --> 00:51:33,119
in and get it and turn it on and wait

1153
00:51:38,569 --> 00:51:35,339
for it to power up and take the Liz Gap

1154
00:51:39,530 --> 00:51:38,579
off and back then you had to focus

1155
00:51:41,390 --> 00:51:39,540
um

1156
00:51:42,950 --> 00:51:41,400
yeah well when you see this I love the

1157
00:51:45,049 --> 00:51:42,960
initial explanation how they were like

1158
00:51:47,690 --> 00:51:45,059
oh these are flares

1159
00:51:49,069 --> 00:51:47,700
um military flares or whatever excuses

1160
00:51:51,349 --> 00:51:49,079
they came up with at that time

1161
00:51:55,430 --> 00:51:51,359
officially

1162
00:51:58,309 --> 00:51:55,440
yeah it's a and I saw it I mean I saw

1163
00:52:00,589 --> 00:51:58,319
the the stuff that was glowing

1164
00:52:02,630 --> 00:52:00,599
people kind of like think it was like a

1165
00:52:05,210 --> 00:52:02,640
light bulb or something shining down out

1166
00:52:08,390 --> 00:52:05,220
of the bottom of the craft it was a hole

1167
00:52:11,809 --> 00:52:08,400
it was an opening and the light source

1168
00:52:14,809 --> 00:52:11,819
was this liquid stuff itself and it

1169
00:52:18,410 --> 00:52:14,819
dripped it dripped very slow like cold

1170
00:52:21,109 --> 00:52:18,420
syrup and strung down and formed big

1171
00:52:23,690 --> 00:52:21,119
drips and went back up into it it was

1172
00:52:26,270 --> 00:52:23,700
like Liquid Fire and I've never really

1173
00:52:28,670 --> 00:52:26,280
seen a flare I can't you know I claim I

1174
00:52:30,290 --> 00:52:28,680
know what flares really look like I see

1175
00:52:32,450 --> 00:52:30,300
little ones you know by the side of the

1176
00:52:33,770 --> 00:52:32,460
road but from the drawings and

1177
00:52:36,950 --> 00:52:33,780
everything that I've seen or something

1178
00:52:39,170 --> 00:52:36,960
on TV there was nothing like that and

1179
00:52:42,230 --> 00:52:39,180
there was no heat and there was no

1180
00:52:44,690 --> 00:52:42,240
Sizzle and there was no odor and I was I

1181
00:52:48,049 --> 00:52:44,700
was so close to it I would have felt

1182
00:52:50,089 --> 00:52:48,059
that uh I would have smelled it I I

1183
00:52:51,650 --> 00:52:50,099
would have heard it and there was

1184
00:52:53,630 --> 00:52:51,660
absolutely nothing there was total

1185
00:52:56,390 --> 00:52:53,640
silence a friend of mine the social

1186
00:52:58,730 --> 00:52:56,400
worker that um it went right over his

1187
00:53:02,210 --> 00:52:58,740
car and he was in northern Arizona at

1188
00:53:04,790 --> 00:53:02,220
the time and he says as it flew over uh

1189
00:53:07,790 --> 00:53:04,800
his truck that all the Crickets stopped

1190
00:53:09,950 --> 00:53:07,800
all sounds stopped until it went over

1191
00:53:11,750 --> 00:53:09,960
his car and then all the Crickets

1192
00:53:13,790 --> 00:53:11,760
started chirping again

1193
00:53:15,770 --> 00:53:13,800
so I don't know if it had something to

1194
00:53:17,990 --> 00:53:15,780
distort that or else it scared the

1195
00:53:20,030 --> 00:53:18,000
Crickets I don't know right so do you

1196
00:53:21,650 --> 00:53:20,040
have um sorry if I missed it earlier you

1197
00:53:24,109 --> 00:53:21,660
may be explaining this as you were going

1198
00:53:27,589 --> 00:53:24,119
through your your process so

1199
00:53:29,809 --> 00:53:27,599
um the so besides the physical uh

1200
00:53:32,690 --> 00:53:29,819
Sensations that you could feel of this

1201
00:53:34,490 --> 00:53:32,700
craft and all these other things so what

1202
00:53:35,990 --> 00:53:34,500
else what else was there was there

1203
00:53:37,849 --> 00:53:36,000
anything specifically

1204
00:53:40,910 --> 00:53:37,859
um happening with you physically because

1205
00:53:43,569 --> 00:53:40,920
of this close proximity

1206
00:53:46,730 --> 00:53:43,579
absolutely nothing and I paid attention

1207
00:53:50,210 --> 00:53:46,740
a while it was happening because I was

1208
00:53:53,690 --> 00:53:50,220
afraid I was afraid of burning and um

1209
00:53:57,589 --> 00:53:53,700
just all this this it was just like a

1210
00:54:00,470 --> 00:53:57,599
volcano lava bright and it was shiny I

1211
00:54:02,630 --> 00:54:00,480
mean I was orange from the glow

1212
00:54:05,329 --> 00:54:02,640
um that was coming off of that plus I

1213
00:54:07,130 --> 00:54:05,339
you know I had my brights on it so that

1214
00:54:10,970 --> 00:54:07,140
orange glow was fighting the brights of

1215
00:54:12,589 --> 00:54:10,980
my truck plus I had that huge um uh uh

1216
00:54:15,530 --> 00:54:12,599
street light

1217
00:54:17,750 --> 00:54:15,540
um very close to me and because of that

1218
00:54:22,130 --> 00:54:17,760
I could see clearly the bottom of the

1219
00:54:25,370 --> 00:54:22,140
craft and the reflection and the Shadows

1220
00:54:27,829 --> 00:54:25,380
that the little indentations made from

1221
00:54:30,049 --> 00:54:27,839
one side from the orange from whatever

1222
00:54:33,470 --> 00:54:30,059
that stuff was dripping down

1223
00:54:34,910 --> 00:54:33,480
and then from my side from my uh the

1224
00:54:36,170 --> 00:54:34,920
headlights and then from the street

1225
00:54:39,109 --> 00:54:36,180
light

1226
00:54:40,670 --> 00:54:39,119
um I I was waiting for something to

1227
00:54:42,230 --> 00:54:40,680
happen it's like I remember thinking

1228
00:54:44,270 --> 00:54:42,240
should I get back in the in the truck

1229
00:54:46,309 --> 00:54:44,280
you know is the gas tank going to blow

1230
00:54:48,770 --> 00:54:46,319
up so to get behind the truck should I

1231
00:54:50,630 --> 00:54:48,780
run down the hill I mean I was going

1232
00:54:54,170 --> 00:54:50,640
through all this really quick as it was

1233
00:54:56,569 --> 00:54:54,180
coming up on me just to be safe not that

1234
00:54:59,930 --> 00:54:56,579
the thing was threatening me or scared

1235
00:55:00,890 --> 00:54:59,940
me I I was just thinking of safety and

1236
00:55:05,030 --> 00:55:00,900
then

1237
00:55:07,250 --> 00:55:05,040
it it you know after a pass maybe it was

1238
00:55:10,549 --> 00:55:07,260
the relief that I was uh was going to be

1239
00:55:13,190 --> 00:55:10,559
fine but it was just like

1240
00:55:15,410 --> 00:55:13,200
I I just I couldn't help I couldn't stop

1241
00:55:17,210 --> 00:55:15,420
crying and generally when I talk about

1242
00:55:21,049 --> 00:55:17,220
it I cry

1243
00:55:23,450 --> 00:55:21,059
um it it was so overwhelmingly it was

1244
00:55:27,049 --> 00:55:23,460
like this generosity I felt towards it

1245
00:55:29,510 --> 00:55:27,059
it was appreciation it was gratitude

1246
00:55:31,910 --> 00:55:29,520
uh I've never felt anything like that

1247
00:55:34,430 --> 00:55:31,920
I've buried my children I've buried my

1248
00:55:37,130 --> 00:55:34,440
whole family I've had I've had so many

1249
00:55:40,069 --> 00:55:37,140
things happen in life I never had a

1250
00:55:41,870 --> 00:55:40,079
feeling like this and it's been

1251
00:55:44,630 --> 00:55:41,880
consistent for over a quarter of a

1252
00:55:46,670 --> 00:55:44,640
century and that's my big takeaway from

1253
00:55:49,549 --> 00:55:46,680
it Beyond deciding and what an

1254
00:55:50,990 --> 00:55:49,559
incredible piece of Machinery it was I

1255
00:55:53,390 --> 00:55:51,000
would love to know who you know who had

1256
00:55:55,609 --> 00:55:53,400
their photo on the pothole and who built

1257
00:55:57,589 --> 00:55:55,619
it who's inside where'd it come from I

1258
00:55:59,990 --> 00:55:57,599
have no idea

1259
00:56:01,370 --> 00:56:00,000
well you know of course David I'm really

1260
00:56:03,230 --> 00:56:01,380
sorry to hear that about your family

1261
00:56:04,849 --> 00:56:03,240
it's

1262
00:56:08,210 --> 00:56:04,859
um

1263
00:56:10,730 --> 00:56:08,220
I'm I'm you know just I'm sorry you had

1264
00:56:12,230 --> 00:56:10,740
to go through that and um um I don't

1265
00:56:14,390 --> 00:56:12,240
know when it comes to the rest of the

1266
00:56:15,770 --> 00:56:14,400
stuff maybe maybe enough will come out

1267
00:56:17,569 --> 00:56:15,780
to where I'm

1268
00:56:20,089 --> 00:56:17,579
um you know if and when eventual contact

1269
00:56:21,829 --> 00:56:20,099
is made you'll get to meet them or maybe

1270
00:56:24,170 --> 00:56:21,839
the government will come out and they

1271
00:56:28,069 --> 00:56:24,180
might have some more info who knows yeah

1272
00:56:30,410 --> 00:56:28,079
um yeah but um was this so this this

1273
00:56:34,430 --> 00:56:30,420
happening uh was it when your family was

1274
00:56:39,770 --> 00:56:36,770
um my children died you know probably

1275
00:56:43,010 --> 00:56:39,780
about eight years prior which

1276
00:56:46,190 --> 00:56:43,020
um I had uh you know learned my lessons

1277
00:56:48,290 --> 00:56:46,200
uh as your family passes before you or

1278
00:56:51,349 --> 00:56:48,300
you pass before your family it's either

1279
00:56:53,990 --> 00:56:51,359
one or the other I mean that's it and

1280
00:56:57,710 --> 00:56:54,000
that led me to become a hospice nurse

1281
00:57:00,470 --> 00:56:57,720
and I I did Hospice 17 years I also did

1282
00:57:04,370 --> 00:57:00,480
five years of hospice Pediatric and then

1283
00:57:07,670 --> 00:57:04,380
I went became a pediatric burn nurse so

1284
00:57:10,370 --> 00:57:07,680
it it really brought out a direction for

1285
00:57:12,829 --> 00:57:10,380
my life you know what was the what was

1286
00:57:15,049 --> 00:57:12,839
the the reaction of anyone else that was

1287
00:57:16,790 --> 00:57:15,059
then around you you know a co-worker

1288
00:57:19,430 --> 00:57:16,800
other other

1289
00:57:21,710 --> 00:57:19,440
um maybe relatives or family members you

1290
00:57:23,870 --> 00:57:21,720
were around uh did you share the story

1291
00:57:25,190 --> 00:57:23,880
with them did you keep quiet can you can

1292
00:57:26,230 --> 00:57:25,200
you tell me a little bit about about

1293
00:57:29,930 --> 00:57:26,240
that

1294
00:57:33,049 --> 00:57:29,940
well working hospice and and we had a 10

1295
00:57:35,990 --> 00:57:33,059
bed unit and our average life expectancy

1296
00:57:39,049 --> 00:57:36,000
there was 72 hours so we would lose a

1297
00:57:41,990 --> 00:57:39,059
couple patients a shift so you know

1298
00:57:45,770 --> 00:57:42,000
it was a uh we were very emotionally

1299
00:57:48,950 --> 00:57:45,780
supportive uh Team of nurses plus with

1300
00:57:51,650 --> 00:57:48,960
the families and with our patients we

1301
00:57:54,170 --> 00:57:51,660
had many experiences

1302
00:57:56,690 --> 00:57:54,180
um with our recently deceased patients

1303
00:58:00,290 --> 00:57:56,700
you can imagine probably every room at

1304
00:58:02,809 --> 00:58:00,300
least 500 people died in every in all of

1305
00:58:05,809 --> 00:58:02,819
our ten rooms there and we were there

1306
00:58:07,970 --> 00:58:05,819
for years and years and years so we felt

1307
00:58:10,730 --> 00:58:07,980
free about talking about things that we

1308
00:58:13,130 --> 00:58:10,740
saw and they were completely supportive

1309
00:58:15,170 --> 00:58:13,140
and especially you know turn on the TV

1310
00:58:16,849 --> 00:58:15,180
and there's you know there's a dozen

1311
00:58:18,829 --> 00:58:16,859
people well we you know flew right over

1312
00:58:21,650 --> 00:58:18,839
our house it flew over a school that

1313
00:58:24,109 --> 00:58:21,660
flew over you know whatever so there was

1314
00:58:27,109 --> 00:58:24,119
a lot of support uh on the from the news

1315
00:58:28,910 --> 00:58:27,119
so no one thought I was nuts I think uh

1316
00:58:30,650 --> 00:58:28,920
the people that didn't see it were upset

1317
00:58:33,290 --> 00:58:30,660
that they weren't outside looking at the

1318
00:58:37,069 --> 00:58:33,300
sky at the time and had the night nurse

1319
00:58:39,589 --> 00:58:37,079
that replaced me had she been in on uh

1320
00:58:44,510 --> 00:58:39,599
come in on time I would have been home

1321
00:58:46,670 --> 00:58:44,520
and missed it so uh yeah yeah it was

1322
00:58:48,549 --> 00:58:46,680
just a fluke that had happened to me but

1323
00:58:52,069 --> 00:58:48,559
I couldn't have been in a better place

1324
00:58:52,789 --> 00:58:52,079
to see it at the angle that I saw it

1325
00:58:58,370 --> 00:58:52,799
um

1326
00:59:00,530 --> 00:58:58,380
David on the off chance that someone uh

1327
00:59:02,809 --> 00:59:00,540
that's watching now and later on this

1328
00:59:04,849 --> 00:59:02,819
will stay on on the web Forever Until it

1329
00:59:05,870 --> 00:59:04,859
you know until or if they ever take it

1330
00:59:08,569 --> 00:59:05,880
down

1331
00:59:10,309 --> 00:59:08,579
um someone from Phoenix and is looking

1332
00:59:12,109 --> 00:59:10,319
for a support group is there any kind of

1333
00:59:14,030 --> 00:59:12,119
information you could give out regarding

1334
00:59:16,010 --> 00:59:14,040
that and and that's your support group

1335
00:59:18,109 --> 00:59:16,020
but just you know you said this an event

1336
00:59:20,089 --> 00:59:18,119
that's happening regularly um and maybe

1337
00:59:24,170 --> 00:59:20,099
talk about that a little bit

1338
00:59:28,609 --> 00:59:24,180
yeah around March 13th of each year for

1339
00:59:30,589 --> 00:59:28,619
about the past 15 years we um they get

1340
00:59:34,190 --> 00:59:30,599
together in Scottsdale at a movie

1341
00:59:35,510 --> 00:59:34,200
theater uh Dr Lynn kitai I always spell

1342
00:59:36,170 --> 00:59:35,520
it wrong

1343
00:59:38,390 --> 00:59:36,180
um

1344
00:59:42,650 --> 00:59:38,400
who has written a book and done a

1345
00:59:44,870 --> 00:59:42,660
documentary on this plays the video and

1346
00:59:47,230 --> 00:59:44,880
um we have a couple Witnesses and it's

1347
00:59:49,789 --> 00:59:47,240
about a four or five hour uh afternoon

1348
00:59:53,750 --> 00:59:49,799
and we get to share it and that's really

1349
00:59:56,809 --> 00:59:53,760
nice she also has a website I I really

1350
00:59:59,990 --> 00:59:56,819
can't think of what it is phoenixlight

1351
01:00:02,329 --> 01:00:00,000
dot net or something like that there's

1352
01:00:04,010 --> 01:00:02,339
also a band group that happens here now

1353
01:00:06,410 --> 01:00:04,020
and they call themselves Phoenix Lights

1354
01:00:08,809 --> 01:00:06,420
so when you Google Phoenix Lights a lot

1355
01:00:12,049 --> 01:00:08,819
of it's a band group you kind of gotta

1356
01:00:15,109 --> 01:00:12,059
do Phoenix flights UFO if you're going

1357
01:00:17,809 --> 01:00:15,119
to search that we also have a local

1358
01:00:21,829 --> 01:00:17,819
mufon group that meets once a month I

1359
01:00:25,130 --> 01:00:21,839
attend that they they don't focus on the

1360
01:00:27,289 --> 01:00:25,140
Phoenix Lights months much but at the

1361
01:00:30,470 --> 01:00:27,299
Arizona Museum there's a permanent

1362
01:00:34,309 --> 01:00:30,480
display and a model of the Phoenix

1363
01:00:36,589 --> 01:00:34,319
Lights craft as a V and there's photos

1364
01:00:39,770 --> 01:00:36,599
on the wall it's been there for several

1365
01:00:42,289 --> 01:00:39,780
years and then there's videos you can

1366
01:00:44,569 --> 01:00:42,299
push a button play the video so that was

1367
01:00:47,390 --> 01:00:44,579
really nice that they do that they

1368
01:00:48,890 --> 01:00:47,400
supported this you know commemorated the

1369
01:00:51,289 --> 01:00:48,900
event

1370
01:00:53,870 --> 01:00:51,299
thank you for that information David so

1371
01:00:55,730 --> 01:00:53,880
uh is there anything else you would like

1372
01:00:57,109 --> 01:00:55,740
to you know share regarding this event

1373
01:00:59,390 --> 01:00:57,119
it's pertinent that you want to talk

1374
01:01:02,450 --> 01:01:00,589
um that's

1375
01:01:04,190 --> 01:01:02,460
that's pretty much what happened I mean

1376
01:01:10,490 --> 01:01:04,200
I

1377
01:01:13,130 --> 01:01:10,500
people that say oh yeah yeah my neighbor

1378
01:01:16,250 --> 01:01:13,140
saw that or I saw that

1379
01:01:18,770 --> 01:01:16,260
um there was a big cover up I know

1380
01:01:21,049 --> 01:01:18,780
um somebody that worked in along with

1381
01:01:24,829 --> 01:01:21,059
the governor who tried to come forward

1382
01:01:27,890 --> 01:01:24,839
about this almost lost her job for

1383
01:01:30,530 --> 01:01:27,900
speaking out about it but um

1384
01:01:32,510 --> 01:01:30,540
you know I think as the as the governor

1385
01:01:35,690 --> 01:01:32,520
was no longer governor and whatever

1386
01:01:39,230 --> 01:01:35,700
pressures he was under came forward and

1387
01:01:41,630 --> 01:01:39,240
he was a I believe a military pilot and

1388
01:01:44,030 --> 01:01:41,640
he said absolutely was nothing from this

1389
01:01:46,010 --> 01:01:44,040
planet I don't know where it was from

1390
01:01:50,510 --> 01:01:46,020
and I don't want to read into it but

1391
01:01:53,150 --> 01:01:50,520
that thing was absolutely massive and it

1392
01:01:55,549 --> 01:01:53,160
was silent and and it didn't even make

1393
01:01:59,569 --> 01:01:55,559
wind it didn't even you know blow my

1394
01:02:02,210 --> 01:01:59,579
hair it there was no sound there was no

1395
01:02:04,130 --> 01:02:02,220
odor there the next day I got up and I

1396
01:02:06,410 --> 01:02:04,140
looked in the mirror to see if I had you

1397
01:02:09,069 --> 01:02:06,420
know radiation burn or something nothing

1398
01:02:13,069 --> 01:02:09,079
I had absolutely

1399
01:02:15,530 --> 01:02:13,079
uh no negative effect from seeing it uh

1400
01:02:18,230 --> 01:02:15,540
it was just this positive thing this

1401
01:02:19,970 --> 01:02:18,240
positive effect it's been in my life and

1402
01:02:22,789 --> 01:02:19,980
uh and I just felt like a better person

1403
01:02:26,150 --> 01:02:22,799
for it but no one else seemed to have

1404
01:02:29,410 --> 01:02:26,160
had that effect so I don't know I stand

1405
01:02:36,910 --> 01:02:33,289
I'm getting old my health is failing and

1406
01:02:39,890 --> 01:02:36,920
I just wanted to to document what I saw

1407
01:02:41,510 --> 01:02:39,900
and uh you know maybe maybe someone will

1408
01:02:43,069 --> 01:02:41,520
maybe someone will get some answers

1409
01:02:45,289 --> 01:02:43,079
someday

1410
01:02:47,270 --> 01:02:45,299
well David I don't know um if you caught

1411
01:02:49,190 --> 01:02:47,280
the beginning of the show or if you

1412
01:02:50,089 --> 01:02:49,200
heard about the recent whistleblower

1413
01:02:51,829 --> 01:02:50,099
news

1414
01:02:54,650 --> 01:02:51,839
um do you yeah if you if you have do you

1415
01:02:57,530 --> 01:02:54,660
have any thoughts on that

1416
01:03:00,049 --> 01:02:57,540
um I I got kind of a

1417
01:03:02,809 --> 01:03:00,059
odd feeling

1418
01:03:04,789 --> 01:03:02,819
um it'll be interesting to say I don't

1419
01:03:07,970 --> 01:03:04,799
want to I don't want to pass judgment on

1420
01:03:09,890 --> 01:03:07,980
anybody else it just um

1421
01:03:12,349 --> 01:03:09,900
I I don't know when I talk about you

1422
01:03:14,990 --> 01:03:12,359
know when I hear myself talk about what

1423
01:03:17,870 --> 01:03:15,000
I saw I know people think that's just

1424
01:03:20,809 --> 01:03:17,880
crazy I mean how can that be so I don't

1425
01:03:23,150 --> 01:03:20,819
want to devaluate anything anybody else

1426
01:03:24,829 --> 01:03:23,160
says that they've seen But I just kind

1427
01:03:27,410 --> 01:03:24,839
of Wonder

1428
01:03:28,910 --> 01:03:27,420
um about how much um how much truth is

1429
01:03:32,870 --> 01:03:28,920
coming out from the government or

1430
01:03:34,670 --> 01:03:32,880
ex-government people my dad

1431
01:03:37,910 --> 01:03:34,680
um when I was a kid when I was 10 years

1432
01:03:41,450 --> 01:03:37,920
old this is back in the in the mid 1960s

1433
01:03:44,210 --> 01:03:41,460
we lived in Ohio and we uh were driving

1434
01:03:47,030 --> 01:03:44,220
by Wright-Patterson Air Force Base in in

1435
01:03:49,130 --> 01:03:47,040
Dayton and I'm in the back seat reading

1436
01:03:51,589 --> 01:03:49,140
a comic book my dad's driving my mom's

1437
01:03:53,750 --> 01:03:51,599
next to him and he points to ability and

1438
01:03:55,730 --> 01:03:53,760
says to my mom he says that's the

1439
01:03:57,950 --> 01:03:55,740
building where we put the flying saucers

1440
01:03:59,990 --> 01:03:57,960
and the alien bodies

1441
01:04:02,510 --> 01:04:00,000
and I'm peeping up and I'm saying I want

1442
01:04:04,549 --> 01:04:02,520
to see the flying saucers well my dad

1443
01:04:06,349 --> 01:04:04,559
didn't realize I was listening and he

1444
01:04:08,150 --> 01:04:06,359
you know quickly changed the subjects he

1445
01:04:11,329 --> 01:04:08,160
says only special people get to see

1446
01:04:12,710 --> 01:04:11,339
those let's go get ice cream and then I

1447
01:04:15,349 --> 01:04:12,720
want to see the flying saucers and

1448
01:04:18,410 --> 01:04:15,359
there's no no no no no but you know he

1449
01:04:19,730 --> 01:04:18,420
quickly changed the subject and and you

1450
01:04:22,370 --> 01:04:19,740
know off we went

1451
01:04:24,170 --> 01:04:22,380
and over the years he would ask me you

1452
01:04:26,510 --> 01:04:24,180
know what do you think about UFOs I mean

1453
01:04:28,849 --> 01:04:26,520
it's like I've never really had any

1454
01:04:31,609 --> 01:04:28,859
interest in them whatsoever I still

1455
01:04:34,970 --> 01:04:31,619
don't I have an interest in what I saw

1456
01:04:36,650 --> 01:04:34,980
but um I really don't read about him or

1457
01:04:37,970 --> 01:04:36,660
you know I'll watch some videos now and

1458
01:04:40,309 --> 01:04:37,980
then

1459
01:04:42,829 --> 01:04:40,319
um but I always wonder you know what

1460
01:04:44,829 --> 01:04:42,839
went on with my dad uh he was in the

1461
01:04:49,309 --> 01:04:44,839
military from

1462
01:04:51,049 --> 01:04:49,319
1945 to 1952 or 53.

1463
01:04:53,809 --> 01:04:51,059
um I thought he was in the Army but now

1464
01:04:56,809 --> 01:04:53,819
looking stuff up it was Army Air Force

1465
01:04:59,510 --> 01:04:56,819
until about 1947 and then the Air Force

1466
01:05:02,210 --> 01:04:59,520
kind of took off on its own and and I

1467
01:05:05,750 --> 01:05:02,220
believe he went on with the Air Force so

1468
01:05:07,309 --> 01:05:05,760
I wonder what uh what he knew and I

1469
01:05:09,230 --> 01:05:07,319
wished I would have dug more I could

1470
01:05:11,569 --> 01:05:09,240
tell that my dad wanted to talk about it

1471
01:05:15,230 --> 01:05:11,579
but I I just had no interest

1472
01:05:18,650 --> 01:05:15,240
and my dad's dad his dad uh had a

1473
01:05:22,609 --> 01:05:18,660
clipping uh he saw a cigar-shaped object

1474
01:05:25,069 --> 01:05:22,619
in 1919 and he reported it to the local

1475
01:05:28,130 --> 01:05:25,079
newspaper and he had the clipping in his

1476
01:05:31,069 --> 01:05:28,140
uh his scrapbook and I was kids we'd

1477
01:05:33,109 --> 01:05:31,079
always when we went to see Grandpa we

1478
01:05:35,990 --> 01:05:33,119
would always pull out the Scrapbook and

1479
01:05:38,089 --> 01:05:36,000
and read about him uh seeing the

1480
01:05:40,549 --> 01:05:38,099
cigar-shaped craft flying over the trees

1481
01:05:43,190 --> 01:05:40,559
and houses and zipped off so it was

1482
01:05:46,490 --> 01:05:43,200
three generations of males that have

1483
01:05:48,289 --> 01:05:46,500
seen UFOs in our family and who knows if

1484
01:05:51,289 --> 01:05:48,299
my kids you know

1485
01:05:53,450 --> 01:05:51,299
uh we grew up who knows if they would

1486
01:05:55,250 --> 01:05:53,460
have seen something or not I don't know

1487
01:05:58,549 --> 01:05:55,260
but you know the way things are going

1488
01:06:00,950 --> 01:05:58,559
and if there's any truth to

1489
01:06:03,250 --> 01:06:00,960
um this government will you know

1490
01:06:05,930 --> 01:06:03,260
eventually whether by force or otherwise

1491
01:06:07,789 --> 01:06:05,940
releasing more and more if there was a

1492
01:06:10,849 --> 01:06:07,799
program that your father was involved

1493
01:06:12,430 --> 01:06:10,859
with I'm sure it's recorded and and

1494
01:06:14,990 --> 01:06:12,440
um you know um

1495
01:06:18,109 --> 01:06:15,000
like it's recorded somewhere you know

1496
01:06:21,049 --> 01:06:18,119
there's some paperwork some trail

1497
01:06:23,390 --> 01:06:21,059
wouldn't that be interesting yeah it's

1498
01:06:25,250 --> 01:06:23,400
um yeah these are great times to be a

1499
01:06:27,529 --> 01:06:25,260
young person because I think all this

1500
01:06:28,789 --> 01:06:27,539
stuff's going to come out for you guys I

1501
01:06:30,890 --> 01:06:28,799
think you guys are going to get the

1502
01:06:33,410 --> 01:06:30,900
answers and it's a shame the older

1503
01:06:36,289 --> 01:06:33,420
people my dad's generation that was

1504
01:06:40,130 --> 01:06:36,299
intimidated so much by saying anything

1505
01:06:42,589 --> 01:06:40,140
and I was watching an old uh Cartoon a

1506
01:06:46,130 --> 01:06:42,599
friend sent it to me and it was Daffy

1507
01:06:48,410 --> 01:06:46,140
Duck saw a UFO and how crazy he was he

1508
01:06:51,349 --> 01:06:48,420
was and they they put him in a straight

1509
01:06:53,210 --> 01:06:51,359
jacket and and carried him off that's a

1510
01:06:57,529 --> 01:06:53,220
what a horrible thing to have done to

1511
01:06:59,870 --> 01:06:57,539
people in the 1950s and now today it's

1512
01:07:02,270 --> 01:06:59,880
coming out it's on the news it's

1513
01:07:03,829 --> 01:07:02,280
this is amazing to be able to talk about

1514
01:07:06,529 --> 01:07:03,839
this freely

1515
01:07:08,329 --> 01:07:06,539
right yeah now now there's there's no

1516
01:07:10,730 --> 01:07:08,339
straight jacket for anybody say

1517
01:07:13,549 --> 01:07:10,740
everything anything it's it's out there

1518
01:07:15,230 --> 01:07:13,559
you know it's like no repercussions like

1519
01:07:18,230 --> 01:07:15,240
they used to have

1520
01:07:20,870 --> 01:07:18,240
it's it's a great time to be into this

1521
01:07:23,829 --> 01:07:20,880
topic you guys you guys are gonna I

1522
01:07:26,750 --> 01:07:23,839
think you guys are gonna get the answers

1523
01:07:28,910 --> 01:07:26,760
you know I'm hoping of course always the

1524
01:07:30,890 --> 01:07:28,920
best for you you know but you know just

1525
01:07:33,170 --> 01:07:30,900
if you stick around for another 10 years

1526
01:07:34,430 --> 01:07:33,180
it'll be it'll be quite a different

1527
01:07:37,670 --> 01:07:34,440
reality

1528
01:07:40,069 --> 01:07:37,680
I I believe it I think it's uh I think

1529
01:07:42,289 --> 01:07:40,079
the Snowball Effect is uh has

1530
01:07:44,750 --> 01:07:42,299
accumulated and so many people have come

1531
01:07:48,349 --> 01:07:44,760
forward and told their stories and they

1532
01:07:50,510 --> 01:07:48,359
refuse to shut up and uh that's what we

1533
01:07:53,450 --> 01:07:50,520
need we just uh we just need everybody

1534
01:07:56,029 --> 01:07:53,460
to speak up and and not just online but

1535
01:07:59,029 --> 01:07:56,039
to their friends our family you know it

1536
01:08:01,309 --> 01:07:59,039
was like me speaking to that um

1537
01:08:03,410 --> 01:08:01,319
um the retired Sheriff from the Navajo

1538
01:08:06,230 --> 01:08:03,420
reservation who knows if you would have

1539
01:08:08,630 --> 01:08:06,240
brought that up I I forget how the

1540
01:08:11,390 --> 01:08:08,640
conversation came up but you know what

1541
01:08:13,670 --> 01:08:11,400
went on up there and why were they so

1542
01:08:16,970 --> 01:08:13,680
free up there on the Navajo reservation

1543
01:08:19,309 --> 01:08:16,980
and not afraid to be seen it's uh

1544
01:08:21,769 --> 01:08:19,319
there's just so many questions uh it's

1545
01:08:23,990 --> 01:08:21,779
coming out it's coming out soon

1546
01:08:25,610 --> 01:08:24,000
well you know it's just uh still amazing

1547
01:08:27,709 --> 01:08:25,620
just even people within your own

1548
01:08:30,410 --> 01:08:27,719
vicinity I've talked about this a couple

1549
01:08:33,650 --> 01:08:30,420
weeks back so good for a good friend of

1550
01:08:35,269 --> 01:08:33,660
mine he finally like um it was Tucker

1551
01:08:38,510 --> 01:08:35,279
Carlson has mentioned something about

1552
01:08:40,430 --> 01:08:38,520
UFOs and he called me and shared the

1553
01:08:42,590 --> 01:08:40,440
article to tell me all about it you know

1554
01:08:44,450 --> 01:08:42,600
I was kind of making a little bit fun of

1555
01:08:46,849 --> 01:08:44,460
him because I'm like you you know that

1556
01:08:49,669 --> 01:08:46,859
you know you you preacher to the choir

1557
01:08:52,970 --> 01:08:49,679
here but um uh what he then proceeded to

1558
01:08:56,209 --> 01:08:52,980
do is just tell me in many ways that he

1559
01:08:59,150 --> 01:08:56,219
just never did before about how dad like

1560
01:09:01,610 --> 01:08:59,160
literally changed his reality he says

1561
01:09:04,789 --> 01:09:01,620
like it was like if something opened up

1562
01:09:07,130 --> 01:09:04,799
within him to where this is now a

1563
01:09:08,930 --> 01:09:07,140
possibility he says before I mean he's

1564
01:09:11,030 --> 01:09:08,940
been around me around other people I

1565
01:09:12,890 --> 01:09:11,040
mean he was the camera guy at the UFO

1566
01:09:16,130 --> 01:09:12,900
conference for for God's sake you know

1567
01:09:18,890 --> 01:09:16,140
and nothing took you know nothing you

1568
01:09:20,990 --> 01:09:18,900
know seeped through but it took someone

1569
01:09:22,789 --> 01:09:21,000
like you know that he trusts at least

1570
01:09:25,189 --> 01:09:22,799
from his point of view Tucker to say

1571
01:09:27,829 --> 01:09:25,199
something about UFOs and it changes

1572
01:09:29,630 --> 01:09:27,839
entire world and it was amazing just to

1573
01:09:31,550 --> 01:09:29,640
have that conversation with them you

1574
01:09:33,530 --> 01:09:31,560
know but uh things like that might be

1575
01:09:35,630 --> 01:09:33,540
happening to a lot more people you know

1576
01:09:37,970 --> 01:09:35,640
and uh good thing is that they've been

1577
01:09:40,070 --> 01:09:37,980
crazies like myself and you know

1578
01:09:41,689 --> 01:09:40,080
yourself and many others online that

1579
01:09:44,150 --> 01:09:41,699
have been talking about this for a long

1580
01:09:47,209 --> 01:09:44,160
time to where they can then just use

1581
01:09:49,729 --> 01:09:47,219
this as an online library for reference

1582
01:09:51,590 --> 01:09:49,739
the uh you know there's thousands and

1583
01:09:54,070 --> 01:09:51,600
thousands of people in the government

1584
01:09:56,990 --> 01:09:54,080
that know all this they know everything

1585
01:10:00,530 --> 01:09:57,000
we're still amazed at whites in the sky

1586
01:10:01,970 --> 01:10:00,540
they are so far beyond that I mean you

1587
01:10:04,310 --> 01:10:01,980
know that they've understood the lights

1588
01:10:06,950 --> 01:10:04,320
in the sky back in probably the 30s and

1589
01:10:10,189 --> 01:10:06,960
the 40s they are they know everything

1590
01:10:12,830 --> 01:10:10,199
about this they know they know so much

1591
01:10:16,070 --> 01:10:12,840
and we're still you know trying to get

1592
01:10:18,410 --> 01:10:16,080
you know the crust just the crust on the

1593
01:10:21,530 --> 01:10:18,420
outside of the loaf of bread and and

1594
01:10:24,110 --> 01:10:21,540
they've got the whole thing uh it's just

1595
01:10:25,149 --> 01:10:24,120
to let them release and for whatever

1596
01:10:28,130 --> 01:10:25,159
reason

1597
01:10:31,430 --> 01:10:28,140
there's there's got to be something

1598
01:10:33,770 --> 01:10:31,440
big time that they're just not wanting

1599
01:10:36,110 --> 01:10:33,780
to let go I don't I don't think they're

1600
01:10:37,970 --> 01:10:36,120
worried about our religion or you know

1601
01:10:39,770 --> 01:10:37,980
if we're gonna Panic there's something

1602
01:10:41,570 --> 01:10:39,780
going on that they're sitting on this

1603
01:10:43,370 --> 01:10:41,580
globally

1604
01:10:45,290 --> 01:10:43,380
for all these years

1605
01:10:47,030 --> 01:10:45,300
well I think

1606
01:10:50,270 --> 01:10:47,040
um just through because of my own

1607
01:10:53,030 --> 01:10:50,280
experiences and prior to to you know

1608
01:10:54,830 --> 01:10:53,040
sources you know uh like Bashar that I

1609
01:10:56,990 --> 01:10:54,840
trust very much at the end of the day

1610
01:11:00,649 --> 01:10:57,000
something very simple and very human

1611
01:11:02,750 --> 01:11:00,659
it's just simply uh the control the

1612
01:11:05,510 --> 01:11:02,760
control of the narrative you know

1613
01:11:08,510 --> 01:11:05,520
because if you look at every uh

1614
01:11:11,630 --> 01:11:08,520
politician or the way things are set up

1615
01:11:13,610 --> 01:11:11,640
um in order for them to be looked at as

1616
01:11:16,010 --> 01:11:13,620
somebody to look up to or listen to

1617
01:11:18,229 --> 01:11:16,020
everything has to come through them so

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01:11:20,689 --> 01:11:18,239
that we go to them and listen to them

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01:11:22,970 --> 01:11:20,699
about what whatever it is saying uh it's

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01:11:24,950 --> 01:11:22,980
not until they reveal something then

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01:11:26,810 --> 01:11:24,960
it's true until they reveal something

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01:11:30,050 --> 01:11:26,820
then that's when we should pay attention

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01:11:32,330 --> 01:11:30,060
to and that is the the general issue

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01:11:35,930 --> 01:11:32,340
that I've personally experienced myself

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01:11:38,390 --> 01:11:35,940
is that this thing and I'm often

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01:11:40,850 --> 01:11:38,400
discussed in this way that when contact

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01:11:43,070 --> 01:11:40,860
happens there will not be you know a man

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01:11:45,530 --> 01:11:43,080
woman or child on the planet not even a

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01:11:48,169 --> 01:11:45,540
rock that will not be aware that contact

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01:11:51,110 --> 01:11:48,179
has occurred you know that's that's how

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01:11:53,390 --> 01:11:51,120
powerful this this is you know and

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01:11:55,430 --> 01:11:53,400
um that's what I just based on my

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01:11:57,050 --> 01:11:55,440
experiences what I foresee happening you

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01:11:58,970 --> 01:11:57,060
know it's not something because right

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01:12:00,410 --> 01:11:58,980
now we can still go well you know I'm

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01:12:02,510 --> 01:12:00,420
not into this because so many people

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01:12:04,130 --> 01:12:02,520
even to this day it's like hey um I

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01:12:06,110 --> 01:12:04,140
heard about this your four stuff you're

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01:12:08,450 --> 01:12:06,120
into that thing right you know I saw

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01:12:10,250 --> 01:12:08,460
this article whatever I'm like you live

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01:12:12,649 --> 01:12:10,260
on the same Planet if I'm not mistaken

1642
01:12:15,110 --> 01:12:12,659
like why is it my thing like you live

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01:12:17,810 --> 01:12:15,120
here too you know it's like why why is

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01:12:20,689 --> 01:12:17,820
this only you know a a niche that only I

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01:12:22,970 --> 01:12:20,699
cover and you are above it all you know

1646
01:12:24,290 --> 01:12:22,980
I was I didn't feel insulted I'm just

1647
01:12:26,950 --> 01:12:24,300
trying to understand the psychology

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01:12:29,870 --> 01:12:26,960
behind all of that

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01:12:31,310 --> 01:12:29,880
there's there's definitely power in

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01:12:33,530 --> 01:12:31,320
Secrets

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01:12:35,630 --> 01:12:33,540
um you know traditional religions have

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01:12:39,050 --> 01:12:35,640
realized that

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01:12:42,350 --> 01:12:39,060
um I I I agree they're they're using it

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01:12:45,050 --> 01:12:42,360
for control for whatever reason it's

1655
01:12:46,910 --> 01:12:45,060
going to be interesting and uh I you

1656
01:12:49,310 --> 01:12:46,920
know it's odd that some of these crafts

1657
01:12:51,770 --> 01:12:49,320
are certainly making themselves known

1658
01:12:55,010 --> 01:12:51,780
and they are evidently picking up people

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01:12:56,990 --> 01:12:55,020
and I you know I hear about abduction

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01:12:58,970 --> 01:12:57,000
stories and

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01:13:01,070 --> 01:12:58,980
um you know I wonder what the government

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01:13:03,110 --> 01:13:01,080
thinks about that are they are they

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01:13:04,850 --> 01:13:03,120
ticked that uh you know they're showing

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01:13:06,470 --> 01:13:04,860
themselves to people or is that a part

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01:13:08,570 --> 01:13:06,480
of the plan

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01:13:11,510 --> 01:13:08,580
um I don't know I don't know I got I got

1667
01:13:13,790 --> 01:13:11,520
a thousand more questions than answers

1668
01:13:15,770 --> 01:13:13,800
right well you know did interviews with

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01:13:17,270 --> 01:13:15,780
a lot of people that that you know have

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01:13:20,450 --> 01:13:17,280
stories and opinions from that

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01:13:22,669 --> 01:13:20,460
perspective too you know just uh uh what

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01:13:24,470 --> 01:13:22,679
the government knows and and uh the

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01:13:26,630 --> 01:13:24,480
programs they're very involved with and

1674
01:13:29,390 --> 01:13:26,640
and you know still continue to this day

1675
01:13:32,149 --> 01:13:29,400
and as this article that I talked about

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01:13:33,770 --> 01:13:32,159
you know mentions but anyway I don't

1677
01:13:35,510 --> 01:13:33,780
know David I guess just like I said

1678
01:13:39,530 --> 01:13:35,520
stick around another 10 years it would

1679
01:13:41,870 --> 01:13:39,540
be it would be thrilling to see

1680
01:13:44,050 --> 01:13:41,880
I plan on doing that I certainly will

1681
01:13:46,970 --> 01:13:44,060
take my vitamins

1682
01:13:48,050 --> 01:13:46,980
and hang around and watch the news right

1683
01:13:49,669 --> 01:13:48,060
that's it

1684
01:13:52,729 --> 01:13:49,679
well David thank you very much thank you

1685
01:13:54,350 --> 01:13:52,739
so much no thank you from the bottom of

1686
01:13:56,570 --> 01:13:54,360
my heart I'm glad you're able to connect

1687
01:13:58,130 --> 01:13:56,580
and uh work it out I'm sorry you had

1688
01:14:00,470 --> 01:13:58,140
some difficulties with telegram but

1689
01:14:02,689 --> 01:14:00,480
you're sounding great which is always

1690
01:14:05,030 --> 01:14:02,699
perfect for any kind of recording

1691
01:14:07,669 --> 01:14:05,040
great thanks so much okay nice talking

1692
01:14:08,630 --> 01:14:07,679
to you yeah you take care don't be a

1693
01:14:11,870 --> 01:14:08,640
stranger

1694
01:14:14,990 --> 01:14:13,550
all right

1695
01:14:17,030 --> 01:14:15,000
let's see here

1696
01:14:19,370 --> 01:14:17,040
all right well there was that was David

1697
01:14:22,790 --> 01:14:19,380
thank you very much David I'm glad uh we

1698
01:14:24,470 --> 01:14:22,800
connected and um because last time when

1699
01:14:27,350 --> 01:14:24,480
I originally had planned to have open

1700
01:14:28,550 --> 01:14:27,360
line where I had to cancel last minute

1701
01:14:32,030 --> 01:14:28,560
um that's when

1702
01:14:33,770 --> 01:14:32,040
um he was wanting to uh was reaching out

1703
01:14:36,350 --> 01:14:33,780
it wanted to come on to tell the story

1704
01:14:38,330 --> 01:14:36,360
and it didn't work out but hey it all

1705
01:14:40,189 --> 01:14:38,340
works out later on

1706
01:14:41,810 --> 01:14:40,199
um let me see here what else we we have

1707
01:14:44,209 --> 01:14:41,820
here if there's anyone else that would

1708
01:14:46,790 --> 01:14:44,219
like to connect please do on telegram or

1709
01:14:49,910 --> 01:14:46,800
ask your question using three asterisks

1710
01:14:51,649 --> 01:14:49,920
in any of the um uh chats that are going

1711
01:14:52,910 --> 01:14:51,659
on right now whether it's on YouTube

1712
01:14:56,149 --> 01:14:52,920
twitch

1713
01:14:58,669 --> 01:14:56,159
um Facebook or Twitter

1714
01:15:00,830 --> 01:14:58,679
um he's a welcome

1715
01:15:03,890 --> 01:15:00,840
I saw earlier you wrote that you had

1716
01:15:05,689 --> 01:15:03,900
your um your

1717
01:15:08,209 --> 01:15:05,699
um operation I'm glad it worked out I'm

1718
01:15:11,330 --> 01:15:08,219
glad you were able to to to walk now

1719
01:15:14,209 --> 01:15:11,340
that that makes me happy so I'm I'm

1720
01:15:16,370 --> 01:15:14,219
hoping just whatever ailment it brought

1721
01:15:17,689 --> 01:15:16,380
to you that it just you overcome quickly

1722
01:15:20,870 --> 01:15:17,699
and just keep on living your life

1723
01:15:25,970 --> 01:15:23,390
uh Leslie great show Ed and thank you

1724
01:15:29,209 --> 01:15:25,980
for us I appreciate it and thanks for

1725
01:15:31,070 --> 01:15:29,219
watching and I don't often say it but if

1726
01:15:32,689 --> 01:15:31,080
you guys find this worth your while and

1727
01:15:35,330 --> 01:15:32,699
maybe someone else might want to see it

1728
01:15:37,010 --> 01:15:35,340
make sure you like and share subscribe

1729
01:15:39,169 --> 01:15:37,020
to the channel so

1730
01:15:40,570 --> 01:15:39,179
um I don't usually usually go through

1731
01:15:43,850 --> 01:15:40,580
those

1732
01:15:46,070 --> 01:15:43,860
requests but if you have some time it

1733
01:15:49,250 --> 01:15:46,080
won't hurt

1734
01:15:51,709 --> 01:15:49,260
all right what else do we have here

1735
01:15:54,530 --> 01:15:51,719
Bradley hi Bradley I haven't seen you in

1736
01:15:57,470 --> 01:15:54,540
a while as well um Bradley since south

1737
01:16:00,110 --> 01:15:57,480
of Africa if I'm not mistaken what

1738
01:16:02,090 --> 01:16:00,120
question you have you have you covering

1739
01:16:05,090 --> 01:16:02,100
the hearing this weekend

1740
01:16:07,790 --> 01:16:05,100
um I know there was a hearing last week

1741
01:16:10,610 --> 01:16:07,800
from NASA but I don't know if there was

1742
01:16:14,689 --> 01:16:10,620
one coming up about something if you can

1743
01:16:19,490 --> 01:16:17,149
um scr pop rock says can you talk about

1744
01:16:22,970 --> 01:16:19,500
Dolores Cannon and Sherry

1745
01:16:25,850 --> 01:16:22,980
right I don't know Sherry right

1746
01:16:28,370 --> 01:16:25,860
but um I don't know what specifically

1747
01:16:32,810 --> 01:16:28,380
you want to know about Dolores Cannon

1748
01:16:36,530 --> 01:16:32,820
um I met her on a few occasions and um

1749
01:16:38,450 --> 01:16:36,540
uh before I guess for like a better word

1750
01:16:40,610 --> 01:16:38,460
joined the family because

1751
01:16:41,510 --> 01:16:40,620
um my um

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01:16:44,390 --> 01:16:41,520
um

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01:16:48,290 --> 01:16:44,400
my wife is basically her granddaughter

1754
01:16:50,270 --> 01:16:48,300
and so by the time I came around Dolores

1755
01:16:53,510 --> 01:16:50,280
at Fort Hillary passed away so I didn't

1756
01:16:55,850 --> 01:16:53,520
get to know her in that way but I did

1757
01:16:57,470 --> 01:16:55,860
several interviews with her and a little

1758
01:17:07,330 --> 01:16:57,480
bit of time that I did spend with her

1759
01:17:07,340 --> 01:17:12,830
okay let's see what else we got here

1760
01:17:18,169 --> 01:17:15,770
Edward has joined welcome Edward

1761
01:17:20,810 --> 01:17:18,179
okay well if there's no other questions

1762
01:17:22,970 --> 01:17:20,820
and um no one else wanting to join

1763
01:17:26,750 --> 01:17:22,980
telegram to share the story I guess we

1764
01:17:28,850 --> 01:17:26,760
can let this be it and so I'm hoping you

1765
01:17:31,669 --> 01:17:28,860
check out some of the information we

1766
01:17:34,729 --> 01:17:31,679
covered earlier uh re-listen to David's

1767
01:17:36,890 --> 01:17:34,739
story uh very amazing I'm I'm glad I was

1768
01:17:37,910 --> 01:17:36,900
able to talk to him and uh you were

1769
01:17:43,189 --> 01:17:37,920
hearing

1770
01:17:45,169 --> 01:17:43,199
time so it's um I've I've always heard

1771
01:17:46,790 --> 01:17:45,179
about many people I've seen that event

1772
01:17:49,550 --> 01:17:46,800
but never talked to someone who was

1773
01:17:51,590 --> 01:17:49,560
actually there that close and so I

1774
01:17:53,209 --> 01:17:51,600
appreciate him taking the time to to

1775
01:17:55,370 --> 01:17:53,219
come on and talk to me about that very

1776
01:17:57,709 --> 01:17:55,380
much

1777
01:17:59,270 --> 01:17:57,719
okay

1778
01:17:59,870 --> 01:17:59,280
all right well

1779
01:18:02,390 --> 01:17:59,880
um

1780
01:18:05,750 --> 01:18:02,400
that's it pretty much thanks everyone

1781
01:18:07,790 --> 01:18:05,760
um again subscribe like share also

1782
01:18:10,189 --> 01:18:07,800
please keep in mind in the description

1783
01:18:11,870 --> 01:18:10,199
below not only do I have all the links

1784
01:18:14,450 --> 01:18:11,880
to the Articles and some information

1785
01:18:16,550 --> 01:18:14,460
about the upcoming interview with the

1786
01:18:20,450 --> 01:18:16,560
Whistleblower but there's

1787
01:18:22,669 --> 01:18:20,460
um uh the links to all the podcasts that

1788
01:18:24,830 --> 01:18:22,679
have been basically uploading I've been

1789
01:18:28,610 --> 01:18:24,840
turning every interview or every show

1790
01:18:30,530 --> 01:18:28,620
into a MP3 file and just it's a pretty

1791
01:18:34,130 --> 01:18:30,540
much on all the major podcasts I mean I

1792
01:18:36,470 --> 01:18:34,140
heart Amazon Google Apple you name it so

1793
01:18:38,990 --> 01:18:36,480
you can listen to this while you're

1794
01:18:42,050 --> 01:18:39,000
driving or uh whatever it is that you

1795
01:18:44,450 --> 01:18:42,060
happen to be doing and also I've been

1796
01:18:49,010 --> 01:18:44,460
branching out on Rumble to also have

1797
01:18:51,950 --> 01:18:49,020
telegram Rumble and twitch as my outside

1798
01:18:53,510 --> 01:18:51,960
sources for this for this channel so in

1799
01:18:56,750 --> 01:18:53,520
this case something happens to this

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01:18:58,610 --> 01:18:56,760
channel uh every show most most of the

1801
01:19:01,310 --> 01:18:58,620
time the next day if not few days after

1802
01:19:03,290 --> 01:19:01,320
is also uploaded on Rumble so please

1803
01:19:06,530 --> 01:19:03,300
subscribe there or follow the channel as

1804
01:19:08,930 --> 01:19:06,540
well and on Twitch because what YouTube

1805
01:19:11,450 --> 01:19:08,940
allows is besides the storing of a video

1806
01:19:14,209 --> 01:19:11,460
I can do a live show like this when they

1807
01:19:17,090 --> 01:19:14,219
take that away I kind of have to kind of

1808
01:19:17,990 --> 01:19:17,100
Branch out so do a live show on Twitter

1809
01:19:20,390 --> 01:19:18,000
page

1810
01:19:22,130 --> 01:19:20,400
and then basically take that save it and

1811
01:19:24,950 --> 01:19:22,140
then upload it to be able to re-watch

1812
01:19:26,930 --> 01:19:24,960
and Rumble so it's great what YouTube

1813
01:19:29,090 --> 01:19:26,940
has to offer but sometimes when they're

1814
01:19:32,330 --> 01:19:29,100
being anal about certain subjects or

1815
01:19:35,750 --> 01:19:32,340
things that I talk about already had

1816
01:19:37,610 --> 01:19:35,760
um one strike I think well two one

1817
01:19:40,850 --> 01:19:37,620
didn't take effect they just warned me

1818
01:19:43,130 --> 01:19:40,860
about it then one said if if the if if

1819
01:19:46,310 --> 01:19:43,140
it happens again I'll be down for seven

1820
01:19:48,110 --> 01:19:46,320
days and then one more for I'll have

1821
01:19:50,990 --> 01:19:48,120
many days and then cancellation of this

1822
01:19:54,110 --> 01:19:51,000
channel so please check out all the

1823
01:19:56,209 --> 01:19:54,120
links follow subscribe wherever telegram

1824
01:19:58,790 --> 01:19:56,219
is specifically because then you can

1825
01:20:01,390 --> 01:19:58,800
stay in touch with the channel this way

1826
01:20:03,649 --> 01:20:01,400
and come on to talk to me

1827
01:20:06,050 --> 01:20:03,659
because I'm basically covering

1828
01:20:07,729 --> 01:20:06,060
everything on my own I don't have a

1829
01:20:10,130 --> 01:20:07,739
producer or separate person they can

1830
01:20:12,410 --> 01:20:10,140
screen calls or anything like that so I

1831
01:20:14,810 --> 01:20:12,420
basically can see you getting onto that

1832
01:20:17,450 --> 01:20:14,820
screen and if you want to speak I can

1833
01:20:18,950 --> 01:20:17,460
kind of bring you in that way now what

1834
01:20:21,050 --> 01:20:18,960
intentions you have I don't know until

1835
01:20:23,450 --> 01:20:21,060
you go live but thankfully so far people

1836
01:20:25,970 --> 01:20:23,460
have been nice and so anyway and plus

1837
01:20:28,370 --> 01:20:25,980
anytime that anything is going on I can

1838
01:20:30,050 --> 01:20:28,380
immediately let all of you know on

1839
01:20:32,870 --> 01:20:30,060
telegram because it's kind of like my

1840
01:20:36,410 --> 01:20:32,880
instant messaging so if you want to be

1841
01:20:38,689 --> 01:20:36,420
more in contact with what's going on and

1842
01:20:41,270 --> 01:20:38,699
anything new that I would like to share

1843
01:20:42,770 --> 01:20:41,280
I try not to bother people with that too

1844
01:20:45,410 --> 01:20:42,780
much because I don't want to just

1845
01:20:47,390 --> 01:20:45,420
constantly post stuff but I always post

1846
01:20:51,110 --> 01:20:47,400
the shows coming up if there's something

1847
01:20:53,570 --> 01:20:51,120
more relevant worth worth sharing share

1848
01:20:57,050 --> 01:20:53,580
it sometimes forget about it but it is

1849
01:21:00,530 --> 01:20:57,060
kind of a direct line to me and so again

1850
01:21:02,209 --> 01:21:00,540
telegram Rumble and twitch are the other

1851
01:21:04,130 --> 01:21:02,219
ones I've been trying to kind of build

1852
01:21:06,229 --> 01:21:04,140
up so in case something happens to

1853
01:21:08,630 --> 01:21:06,239
YouTube you can find me there and all

1854
01:21:11,570 --> 01:21:08,640
the links are in the description below

1855
01:21:15,649 --> 01:21:11,580
okay well thanks again I appreciate all

1856
01:21:17,810 --> 01:21:15,659
of you uh watching and um I'm just I'm

1857
01:21:20,270 --> 01:21:17,820
hoping you are doing well wherever you

1858
01:21:22,490 --> 01:21:20,280
are and have a great rest of the weekend